7 Reasons Hawaii Hates You

Before you buy tickets for a vacation in Hawaii, take a few minutes to think about this: Hawaii hates you and doesn't want you to visit. What? How did YOU make Hawaiians so angry? Let's count the ways.

1. Your Government Destroyed the Hawaiian Monarchy

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Doesn't it seem kind of weird that Hawaii is a US state? It's about 2,500 miles from California's east coast and has a completely different history than the mainland US.

Until 1898, Hawaii functioned perfectly fine as an independent nation. That was the year that Hawaii became a US territory and the government forced Queen Liliuokalani out of power. It later became a state in 1959.

You might think, so what? That's all history, right?

Think again. Consider the perspective of Hawaii's native people. To natives, a bunch of Europeans showed up one day and decided to make major changes to their culture. If, say, Germany took over your state, wouldn't you be pissed?

Oh, and then Germany sent so many of its people to live in your state that you can't even get around by speaking your native tongue anymore. So this foreign country has essentially forced you to revoke your heritage and follow its culture instead.

Yeah, we thought so.

2. You Sound Like an Ass

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Just so you know, you don't sound cool when you try to use Hawaiian words while visiting Hawaii. When you mispronounce simple words like “aloha” and “nani,” you sound like an ass.

Here's the deal, it's about as acceptable for a mainlander to use Hawaiian words as it is for a white person to call a black person the N-word. You don't know what you're saying; you don't know how to say it; and you have no right to appropriate another culture's language.

To reiterate: you sound like an ass, so shut up already before Hawaii punches you.

3. You're Destroying Hawaii's Environment

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Tourists visit Hawaii because they love the sand beaches, lush jungles, and, of course, the warm weather. That seems pretty understandable. Unfortunately, so many tourists want to visit Hawaii that they're screwing up the very things that make them want to go there in the first place.

The state (do not make the mistake of assuming that the state and the native people have the same perspective on anything in Hawaii) plans to accept 262,000 visitors a day by 2020. That means Hawaii, with its population of 1.8 million people, will have 12.6 million tourists every year.

All of those people are destroying the environment. It doesn't even matter what tourists do. They can pick up after themselves, choose sustainable hotels, and refuse to use plastic bags, but it still doesn't matter because Hawaii cannot support that many people.

The situation is so bad that the Hawaii Ecumenical Coalition issued a declaration in 1989 saying that the Hawaiian Islands and its people faced a state of emergency.

Hawaiians who understand this hate you just for showing up. They don't want your stupid tourism dollars. They want to enjoy their beaches without worrying about sewage backflows.

4. You Helped Ruin Breasts

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Do you know what most Hawaiian women wore before European missionaries showed up? I'll tell you what they didn't wear… shirts! Hawaiian women typically strolled around without anything covering their breasts. And then a bunch of European Catholics came along and said, “Oh my! Cover those things up!”

The men are still pissed off over that one. Some of the women aren't too happy, either.

5. You're Mocking Hawaiian Traditions

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Now that you've stolen public breasts from the Hawaiian people, how about mocking the rest of the culture by wearing cheap clothes that vaguely imitate items traditionally worn on the islands.

Go ahead, put on that grass skirt made of plastic! Why not wear a feather head dress while you're sitting beside the hotel pool? Hey, it's your vacation, go for it!

If you think that sounds ridiculous, let's turn it around and use it on your culture. Let's say you're a devout Catholic, and here comes someone wearing a big plastic cross or maybe a Pope hat made of cheap materials. Are you offended?

Wait. Before you answer, consider that this type of dress has become acceptable by most of the people around you. When you get upset, they tell you not to be so uptight. I mean, come on, we're just mocking the traditions of your ancestors. Get over it already.

Now how mad would you get when you saw an airplane dumping these offensive cultural parasites on your native soil?

6. The Living Was Easy… Until You Showed Up

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Tourism has made it nearly impossible for average people to live in Hawaii. When you spend your tourism dollars on hotels and condos, you push housing costs so high that the people who actually live in Hawaii can't afford to live in Hawaii.

In 2000, the median cost of a house in Honolulu County was $274,600. By 2009, the median price had reached $552,100. Renting makes life a bit easier, but locals can still expect to spend over $1,000 per month for a small apartment.

Meanwhile, guess how much people get paid in Hawaii? The median household income in 2009 was just barely over $67,700. A family making that much money cannot possibly afford a house that costs half a million dollars.

The state might love your tourism dollars, but the locals know that every dollar you spend makes it harder for them to survive.

7. You Pay Hawaiians to Demean Themselves

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Before you argue that Hawaii has more jobs because of tourism, stop and think about what those jobs entail. You're mostly talking about the kinds of jobs that force scantily clad women to dance on the beach for your entertainment or demand natives to roast pigs for your enjoyment. Yeah, because those traditions were only created for the pleasure of tourists who don't understand a thing about Hawaii's history or people.

Thanks so much for making economic conditions so hard for native Hawaiians that they're forced to demean their customs just to pay the rent.

Hawaii hates you, and it has some pretty good reasons. If you still want to visit, then take some time to remember that you are a visitor. You better act like a visitor if you want people to respect you at all.

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  1. I had white neighbors who retired to Hawaii and left over antiwhite racism. The military tell me how antiwhite racist the Hawaiians are. I went to school with Hawaiians who were chinese and japanese and they called me haole. They were no more Hawaiian than I am although they were born in Hawaii.
    There is supposed to be a big Phillipino population there. When I asked the military how many are actually polynesians were there they said very few pure Hawaiians with alot of political clout. About 25% mixed polynesian-others. They said everything is so corrupt with the polynesian Hawaiians earning way more than anyone else in the same job. They told me all the Military spending in Hawaii is a huge amount of the economy. Agriculture is a small part of the economy with Dole the big contributor. Tourism is a huge part of the economy.
    I know what the US did with the Polynesian queen was wrong. However the island is mostly populated by other interlopers, the Chinese, Japanese, and Philippino. The big winner who would move in once the US would be pushed out would be China because they have the aggressiveness, the huge population and the money now. I'll bet the polynesians would hate Chinese domination as much if not more than they hate the US but there would be a whole lot more Chinese moving in and taking over the islands with everyone having to go through a Chinese middle man in order to conduct business. In reality it will never be just Polynesians again because you can't repeat the past. There are too few Polynesians left.
    Glad I don't live there. I visited the islands in the past and loved it then over 20 years ago. I would like to see tourism drop to the islands so these arrogant pricks get their just deserts. Less money because they haven't developed an economy that isn't built around tourism while they trash the tourists who bring income into their island. They just blame the white man for all their woes.
    This island is just like Japan with exorbitant real estate prices because there is less real estate available on an island and not because the whites oppress them. Japan is alot more populated than Hawaii. The Japanese aren't blaming their declining ecology on the whites like the Hawaiians are. The Japanese, unlike the Hawaiians have developed an economy independent of tourism. The Hawaiians
    don't have manufacturing which means everything has to be imported at huge cost just like Australia another island nation with deficiant manufacturing. I would love to see all industrialized nations pull out of Hawaii and charge them tarriffs so all the electrical goods the islanders have been accustomed to are no longer affordable to these arrogant Hawaiians who can just bitch about their entitlement and how the white man has oppressed them long after the whites have left. Then they will be invaded by the Chinese and it will become Chinese territory. It would sever them right. There won't be any polynesian Hawaiians left as everyone will be Chinese. You can count on it.

  2. This article made me upset. I understand the reasoning behind why the Hawaiian people are angry...but with cultural diversity the way it is TODAY how is it MY own fault that you choose to hate me?

    I feel for the Hawaiian people. With a husband of Puerto Rican decent and half of my family (in laws) being 100% Puerto Rican I have heard of the effects that arise from billionaires buying beach front property, American government pushing their culture onto Puerto Rico and the effects tourism has on the people as well, colonization etc... it's sad and I'm sure everyone is different...but my in laws being born and raised in PR welcome all those interested in learning their language, about their food and culture etc. and take pride in it!
    So i can say it's hurtful that I get the stink eye from Hawaiians just for VISITING for 7 days out of my life.

    My husband once lived in PR and wanted to experience the islands of Hawaii. We didn't come here to go to tourist shops with the same cheap fake merchandise similar to things sold all along our coast of California....we didn't come to clutter the beach, ruin the reefs, or go to the same 4 restaurants everyone else goes to... and we don't go around yelling "Aloha" and "Mahalo" wearing tacky knock off Hawaiian shirts.

    We came to Kauai to quietly and respectfully explore. To experience Waimea canyon, swim in Queen's Bath and off grid streams up in the mountains, go on countless hikes, see the wet caves, the gardens, the hell of a coast line that puts Big Sur, SD, SB to shame!

    We live in California and LOVE our home because we love the mountains and the beaches, sunshine, rain, snow...National Parks etc--and I personally enjoy our crisp cold air we get on the coast. We came to Hawaii to experience more of this beautiful planet we ALL share. So yeah it's rude for people that don't even know us to be jerks for no reason--espeically since we are genuinely enamored by your culture and educated ourselves prior to coming. Trust me when I say it pissed me off too to see a bunch of tacky (sorry to offend anyone but.... they were all white) tourists wearing the most ridiculous attire and being obnoxious. But to get super rude treatment when I ask to pet your dog (like I do to EVERYONE in California since I love dogs) or when I smile and say "hello" or order a coffee before my hike really killed my vibe.

  3. I have visited last November, went to Big Island and Oahu. Indeed, I felt not welcome at all by the native folks. It was the worst holiday of my life and I came in to respectfully learn about the Islands and the their cultural heritage. Not by visiting the „Polynesian Cultural Centre” or The Dale Ananas Farm”, but rather by talking to people and experiencing the nature. Everywhere I went I got nothing but ignorant looks at best. The Hawaiann folks are unfriendly, ignorant and very hatefull towards whites. The are absolute racists. I just wanted to leave after a week but had to stay for two because of my flights to Europe. Keep your Islands to yorself, they are nothing special, overrated, overhyped, extremly unfriendly and expensive and ANTI WHITE. Never ever again will I visit Hawaii. There is no „Aloha Spirit” at all. They hate everyone that is not local. Oh, drugs everywhere, is like a meathheads paradise.

    • @Martin - sounds like a horrible trip. but I've got to say, your post was no better. I see little more than a bunch of unconstructive comments with no substance. Can you elaborate a bit? For example, what are 'ignorant looks"? In what ways did you experience racism or unfriendly-nes? I wasn't there with you so obviously I can't speak to what your encounters with natives and/or locals were like, but posts like yours don't do anything to help shed any light on either side of the issues being discussed. If you have something to say and can back it up, by all means, shout it from the mountain tops and maybe some folks will learn a thing or 2 or see things in a way they previously have not. But to just stand up barking out a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations does nothing but agitate and continue to foster hate.

    • We don’t want you here anyway so thanks for not coming back as a native Hawaiian i extend to you our gratitude for being a Haole that finally gets that WE DONT LIKE YOU AND WE DONT CARE IF YOU FIND IT OFFENSIVE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A SACK OF SHIT

  4. So speaking another language is now cultural appropriation? You sound like an idiot. No It isn't like saying the N-word. If I start trying to speak Spanish while in Mexico, doesn't mean I'm slurring racial epithets at them. As a linguist I can't actually believe you are advocating against trying to learn another's language. If anything this is what people should do...but do it genuinely. It is the doorway to their culture. Treat the language and culture with respect of course, but learn all you want of other cultures. Exploring other cultures is one of the greatest pleasures of life and no one should be deprived of it.

  5. I have been stationed in Hawaii for 4 years now and since then I have met 4 Hawaiians that were rude. Far better than the amount of rude people I ran into while stationed at Fort Bragg, NC. The first instance was when I first arrived on island. I was asking a bus driver about a location and he got mad because I miss pronounced it. Another local got up and told the bus driver to get f*** and then answered several questions I had. Second instance was a "thing" (not sure if it was a lady or a man but I am pretty sure it was part cave troll) that cut me off then flipped me the bird... still not sure what that was about. Third person was a guy standing outside the door to a homedepot. I needed to go to the return counter which is 5 feet past the door. It looked like he was inline but at the same time he was standing pretty far back from the end of the line. So I asked him if he was standing in line. He glanced at me, mumbled a derogatory insult, then waved his hand at me like I was a mosquito. I then walked into the store and got inline in front of him. He began throwing a fit because I cut him so I let him get back in front of me. Another wtf moments. Fourth and final instance is a guy yesterday decided he was going to ywell at me for not turning my truck off at a gas pump. Now before anybody goes ape shit bc of a safety hazard, I drive an 18 year old diesel truck. Diesels dont like to be turned on and off alot also diesel fuel cannot be lit by a spark or a match. You need pressure and extremely high heat (even a torch can have a hard time igniting diesel fuel). Diesels ignite fuel by compressing the fuel and air to several thousand psi before it passes to a chamber with a glow plug which gets extremely hot to ignite the fuel in the cyclinder. This guy accused me of not turning off my truck bc I am white and in uniform so rules didnt apply to me. For 10min this retard jumped around me trying to get me to fight him. By this time I already had called the police. The gas attendant walked over and explained to the local (he wasnt even hawaiian but from Guam) and told him diesels dont have to turn off their engines. This clown then calmed down and in his own way apologized. We shook hands I called the cops back and said no need to show up. Altercation is settled without any physical violence and I am not going to push for harrasment charges. Now my platoon sergeant had a worse incounter. His wife was pulled from his truck while they were getting ready to leave a restaurant. He ran around and knocked the first guy out. Two more ran around the truck and tried to attack him. Luckily my psg was with his brother inlaw and his family (who are all native Hawaiians) and they chased off the other two offenders. They were all eventually caught and arrested. Turns out some Hawaiian gangs go around finding soldiers and tourists to beat up just because they arent native. Any of those altercations above can and do happen in every state. To assume all Hawaiians are worthless indreds, rude, or uneducated (as some comments below mention) is just plain ignorrance. Since I have been here I have had locals take me to private hunting areas, fishing spots, and even sacred ruins. A local invited me once to help him operate his sail boat in a sail boat race. I was sitting at the bar in the La Mariana Sailing Club one day and he just walked up and asked if I knew how to sail. I told him nope but if he was willing to teach I am willing to learn. We didnt win but it was a great time. To sum it all up you got assholes and rude people everywhere you go. To judge an entire race, culture, or religion based on the actions of a few is just plain ignorance.

    • To be fair, military is historically treated that way because of violent crimes against Hawaiians.

      They don't like you, they fear you.

  6. I lived there in '99 and '00, worked in a hospital. I would get racial taunts on occasion. Funny how nobody called me a dumb f*ckin haole or told me to go home when I was taking care of their sick grandma, though. I did meet a lot of good folks there, and I took my wife there for our honeymoon a few years later. I think the good outweighed the bad.

  7. Funny....racism is legit if you aren't white.

    Yep.

    Whites only = wrong
    Browns only= right

    Its not hypocritical at all. No. Its not privilege either. No

    Hey. Reality Check.
    Racism is anti-mertiocratic and therefore wrong. No one deserves anything simply for the hue of their skin or accomplishment of their ancestors- this is privileged entitlement.

    Your personal aptitude and virtue should get you where you go in life. Not where you were born, who you know, who your family is, or what racial identity/race you belong to.

    Racism is a tool for losers to consolidate wealth pools and limit competition. Many other groupisms do this as well. Anyone who does things to keep their competition down is a loser. All peers should be entitled to equal progress. Being a peer is entirely based on aptitude and virtue.

  8. The MOMENT a natural disaster hits Hawaii, they'll all be REAL happy about being U.S. citizens... and they won't have a problem taking mainland money when they need it to rebuild.

  9. When will small cultures realize how hypocritical they are when it comes to these things? If Hawaii didn't have modern-day technology or any standard of living, they would blame rich people for being prejudice and thinking they are too good to help the Hawaiians. Yet, once people show in interest in developing the markets and actually learning the language and culture, people are still pissed? Assimilation is different than appropriation. If you don't believe in assimilation, then that means you are against any foreigner of any country moving to another place for any reason. If someone in say, Japan wants to move to California to better their life, are they wrong for coming here, learning how to speak English and getting a job? Somehow this "appropriation" scenario only works when it comes to white or U.S. born citizens. If you don't want anyone to come to your islands and share your culture, then you better believe the same for every other country and culture. Sorry to all the people fleeing horrible governments, wouldn't want them appropriating United States culture.

    • “If Hawaii didn’t have modern technology..” Hawaii was a thriving monarchy recognized as such by the entire world until the US decided to illegally overthrow it. Hawaiians have not forgotten this and the animosity runs deep to this day. You speak as if you know the difference between appropriation and assimilation yet your entire commentary is centered around an extremely ethnocentric point of view. If Hawaiians had the opportunity to forge their own identity in the world, as a legitimate kingdom that it was, the possibilities would have been endless for a modern self sustaining nation. Unfortunately, America has intentionally deprived them of that opportunity and you have the audacity and arrogance to basically say Hawaii should be thanking America in return after systematically destroying Hawaiian culture and depleting their natural resources. Go read an actual history book and while you’re at it take a look in the mirror and repeat “I am the reason why Hawaiians hate white people”.

  10. I have received hateful stares from a few locals over the years and it takes you back to see such hate. Makes me sad as I respect the culture and its people. But I have also met very warm locals and do appreciate it. But after reading this blog I really don't want to go back again. This ruined it for me.

  11. The original Hawaiian culture was at the Neolithic Stone Age level. For example, the Hawaiians murdered Captain Cook, in 1779. They cut him into pieces and stripped the meat off his bones. They believed the keeper of these bones would inherit the mana, the spiritual power, of the deceased. The Hawaiians were a superstitious and ignorant people with no exceptional accomplishments. I don't care what the Hawaiians hate about me, since I don't hold them in high regard.

    • Most people are subject to the same fatal flaw. Their "race" is really quite irrelevant to that phenomena. The accomplishments of their ancestors is also rather irrelevant. It only indicates a probability of their potential. Genius can be born of retards.

      What I am curious about is how mirrors have effected people's racial identity. I seem to lack this attribute, but I wonder. I suspect mirrors have increased people's need to identify with histories of people who superficially "look" like they do. Personally, I find most history to be rather repugnant and hardly laudable. I certainly wouldn't impose guilt on people due to the short comings of their ancestors.

  12. Too many of you getting off the rails on tangent about colonialism and racism. The article talks about impact of tourism.

    Like it or not, tourism, and especially hyper-tourism, does make an impact. Especially small locales like Hawaii with long rich history. The changes are magnified by loss of tradition and culture and "invasion" of tourists and slow integration to USA (the nation that took over Hawaii . . . be that good or bad depends on what and how you factor the variables and your own culture and heritage . . . local Hawaiians feel different than Billy Bob from Arkansas).

    Hawaii is changing rapidly the further you go from 1893 or 1959. Loss of historical tradition and customs replaced by tourism, mainlanders living there, and all the modern day challenges. Good or bad? You decide.

    I lived in Hawaii from 1976 - 1998. I visit family there almost yearly. Boy how it has changed!

    Millionaire foreigners buy up million dollar condos and do in fact force out locals in already tight housing market. Most of jobs are tourist, hotel, retail, low skill related (which is why I left coz not much you can do with technical degree there). Go outside of Ala Moana high rise million dollar condo construction boom, and rest of Oahu is same as it was 10, 20, 30 years ago . . . just more crowded. The locals are not benefiting from tourism. Living in same run down places they did when I lived there.

    People routinely work two or three jobs to make ends meet. Renting an apartment in places like Kalihi runs $1,000 plus for run-down over crowded house renovated to squeeze in as many renters as owner can fit to maximize dollars.

    This is why places like Las Vegas has such a huge Hawaii expat population.

    Public schools are old, no tourist tax dollars fixing them up. When friends visit me in mainland they are astonished at quality of public schools. Drive by homes and you see 10 cars parked in front because too expensive to live by yourself, so you live in generational housing.

    Homelessness has gone crazy! Saw very few back in 1980s, now they're everywhere. Why aren't tourist dollars helping that?

    Rail cost should be way more offset by tourist dollars. Brunt of cost if passed on to locals. State payroll tax higher than Federal tax.

    Drive on North Shore and there are literally dozens of shrimp trucks. Hordes of tourists vying for shrimp. Was there in March 2017 and it was astonishing to see just how many tourists flock North Shore. I thought it was way too much.

    Hawaii has many problems. Tourism and impact is just one. Will more tourism help or hurt? Will less tourism help or hurt? If you care about local culture, tourism helps deteriorate and belittle it. If you don't care about local culture and history, then let the tourists in. If you care about locals and their economy and benefit of tourism, then something needs fixing because they are still low paid (just go visit where most live and so many working double and triple jobs to make ends meet). If you don't care, then let the tourists in.

    Too much tourism didn't create Hawaii's problems, but they for sure impact and magnify them and I see no tangible benefit on locals. Before the tourism boom, locals were still there, not making much money, working multiple jobs, living in generational housing, limited job opportunities. Same is true now.

    • I agree that the super rich real estate investor do ruin things for everyone else. They do the same here on the mainland. Look at California, Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas coastal areas. Any place with a nice climate and a nice view becomes an international destination for the rich. Unfortunately Hawaii is a beautiful place with a near perfect climate. Limitations should have been out in place years ago to prevent real estate speculators from , and rich individuals from buying large plots of very small islands.

      It does however, appear that on Lanai the answer to their financial problems may be coming from a billionaire. People need to work, and on Lanai there just isn't much of a way to make a living without tourism. If I am wrong, please enlighten me, but from what I've read the people are optimistic for the first time in years. Personally I have to see it developed, but if it's what the people of Lanai want then good for them.

    • Stop clinging to a cultural identity and groupisms

      I have lost no culture as there is hardly a culture around me worth perpetuating. I don't have a culture just because I am white. That is asinine.

      Tourism is good. It brings trade. Trade improves people's lives. Much of what you've outlines as "problems" related to "tourism" is actually purposeful mismanagement by the rich. Too many high aptitude, high virtue people are marginalized which causes a power imbalance in our social structures. Racism reinforces the marginalization of high aptitude, high virtue people.

  13. I never had a desire to visit & now I definitely won't. Why go spend $ where I am unwanted & judged by what others did before I was born?

    • Hawaii is a great place to visit and vacation.

      I remember living in the Pacific Northwest and a sign on the highway would read as you entered a state "Welcome, Have a Nice Stay, Just Don't Stay Too Long" or another as you were leaving "Thanks For Visiting, Did you Forget Anyone?

      I think the same applies to Hawaii

    • My family is not Hawaiian but we do have friendsthat are. They have said if you respect the locals, our islands, and our culture, then you can visit anytime!! Not all locals are "unwelcoming". If you don't want to come visit then DON'T!! Don't ruin it for everyone else, you are reiterating facts about the government, and everything else, but that part is not the real Hawaii. Before you talk about Hawaii without having been here, think about it. Locals in Hawaii work and vacation like everyone else, and we hear stories about the mainland, too, but we go to those places and experience them for ourselves. We don't listen to someone else's bad experience and decide we are not going there because afriend had a bad experience. COME EXPERIENCE HAWAII FOR YOURSELF!! DON'T LISTEN TO THE HYPE!! HAWAII IS AN AMAZING PLACE EXPERIENCE OUR ALIHA FOR OUR ISLANDS. If your friends had a bad time they probably pissed off a local. So give the islands a chance, because Kauai, which is the northernmost island, is so beautiful and the locals will show you ALOHA, if you respect our aina (lands). So what do you say? ?????

  14. The author of this article truly is the lowest form of human garbage perhaps after murderers and rapists. Congratulations on your pure hatred of travel, tourism, ethnic diversity, and everything good in this world. I hope you die alone, not even with members of your own race at your side.

    • SN, a little strong but I also agree the author of this article is motivated by pure hate or doing what he intended and pit one person against another. Hawaii is riddled with violence from the beginning and to bring all that to the white man is a cop out. Most of the islanders I have come in contact with have been very gracious but there are a few that show their pure hatred and I (do not) look away because that kind of behavior is not acceptable. That being said I will still visit the islands and as always be respectful of the land and its people.

      • "Hawaii is riddled with violence"?? Are you serious? It's literally one of the safest states in the USA in terms of low violent crime.

        • Part of the reason it is "statistically low crime" is that many, many crimes that are committed against whites are not prosecuted. Non-Hawaiian people are routinely beaten but the police do NOTHING because they hate non-Hawaiians too. It is really unsafe there for military guys because local gangs target military people for ancestral revenge. Howlie Day in the schools is REAL. Non-native Hawaiians should not go to Hawaii. Let the place rot. The simmering rage of Hawaiians is well documented, perpetuated and even encouraged. Hawaiians say Whites are to blame for all of their problems. They long for "the good old days". There is no such thing. Only in your dreams. There is no such thing as honor or fighting fair in that culture. They are worse than animals because they excuse the terrible, violent behavior by saying, "well you probably pissed off a local..." Read the other comments. Every comment to those sympathetic to the locals gives some BS excuse such as, whites did the same thing to blacks. I experienced first hand and have since read many stories about people being attacked by a gang for no reason at all. And not just knocked out, but really beaten badly even after the person was knocked out. Teeth knocked out, face smashed, bones broken FOR NO REASON besides you are non-Hawaiian. Hawaiians must stop blaming everyone else for their problems. If you must leave Hawaii to get a job, at least you have 49 other states to choose from. Without USA , you would still be the backwards living inbreeding monkeys that you prefer to be.

  15. Many of the comments on here have degenerated into racial slurs and talk of racism. Culture and race are two different things. There is only one race. The human race. What divides people is culture and history.

    The overthrow off a sovereign government by another nation that you had treaty relations with, is liken unto say Japan taking over Washington DC. At the time of the overthrow there were two major players in Honolulu. The Brittish and the Americans. Also in the harbor we're the Japanese. Earlier attempts at overthrow was the three days that Hawai'i was a Brittish territory, and an abortive attempt by the Russians. Both incidents we're undertaken by individual members if that specific government, and when their government officials found out, sovereignty was restored. Except in the American case. Politically, the U.S. was in the wrong. This was not similar in any way to what happened elsewhere in the world. Hawai'i was sovereign as any sovereign country is today. They had their own Constitution that, btw, was more inclusive than the American Constitution. There were citizens of Hawaii under the Constitution that we're not Hawaiian as well. It was never about blood quantum, color or race, or even culture. It was about how the U.S. (then America) overthrew a lawfully sovereign nation it had treaties with, and with whom no declaration of war was in place. That should scare every single nation in the world. It was done with the knowledge and cooperation of the US ambassador to Hawaii in cooperation with American citizens living in Hawai'i, and the US Marines. That's how it happened. They set up a puppet government, imprisoned our Queen, and made Hawaii a territory of the US. They passed laws saying you could vote if you owned land, if not, then you had no say. They instituted taxes on sheep's, dogs, donkeys, people and children in a time when currency was not circulated. If you could not pay, you were dispossessed. And I could go on...into the other aspects if life that was changed. But, bottom line. The US violated an international treaty with a sovereign state. It doesn't matter about strategic placement in the Pacific, etc. Is it right for you to move into your neighbors house, take over the title, cause it has a better view? Nope. That's what sovereignty is about. Once it is restored, then the talk can begin about what happens next. Simple.

    Just wanted to clarify for people what happened. I am a retired Archaeologist, and a Native Hawaiian.

    • True, but this has been the story of mankind from the very beginning. I know it does not make it right. I sometimes think of the old phrase, survival of the fittest, or like Darwinism. Nature is not always kind. As a world, I think we have become more civilized, but we still have a long way to go to reach that utopian society.

      • Adaptation, as expressed by Darwin was in reference to how certain species adapt physical traits over time as the result of environment. For example, certain birds developed curved beaks that could more effectively access the nectar inside of flowers. These adaptations over time is said to make the species "more fit."

        Adaptations take years, usually depending on the life cycle of the species in question. A flu virus for example is like a little Xerox machine, if you will, changing rapidly with each generation. One generation could be a minute. This is why it is so hard to find the exact flu remedy. The viral strain keeps changing.

        This is what Darwin's theory was about. Survival of the fittest was a term attached to it, but has nothing to do with war, overthrow, who has the bigger weapons, etc.

    • Everyone & place has history. I heard firsthand of Hawaiians hatred of white Americans from a native Hawaiian. Hate me, hate my money. I cannot be held accountable for things I cannot control. I was born long after Pearl Harbor

      • I'm sorry you had to experience that. One person's anger or foolishness does not speak for a whole culture of people. Every culture has people within it, with their own ideas of things. Some people support Trump, some don't. Some March on Washington for what they believe, others start riots. Every culture is a mixed bag because people are different. Know that there are many of us who love our home, know the history, desire restoration, but are not filled with hate for people, no matter what color they are. The Hawaiian kingdom had citizens who were non Hawaiians. And, whether or not it happens or not is not for me to guess.

    • We can restore your sovereignty, and pull all of our military and economical assets, and within a few years without our help you will be part of another country. If we had never welcomed Hawaii as a state in the greatest country in the world, then the Japanese would have killed every last one of you during WW2! Think about that. There would be no culture to even argue about. The USA definitely gives more than it gets from Hawaii, and I would vote for letting you hateful racists fend for yourselves in a second. Maybe try having a little gratitude for the kind people who have given their lives to protect your tiny vulnerable Island.

      • My previous comment was for Gentry below, and the writer of this article.

      • Aloha Chris,

        Not sure where the anger is coming from, but if I were to speculate about what would have happened to Hawaii if there was no overthrow, given the political situation at the time, I'd say Hawai'i would have more than likely become a protectorate of Brittan, although the British tried, but gave up their claim prior to the over throw.

        I guess we can only guess, so if the Brittish took over, given their history in the Pacific, they would have kept the monarchy in place, and assigned a governor to oversee the Brittish interests. By the 70s, Brittan relinquished control of the islands it held, and maintains a diplomatic relationship with them over time.

        Speculation about WWII and the Japanese is interesting. If the British were here, they probably would have still attacked, although I'm not a war historian, I'm guessing that Hawaii became a target because of the military bases here. Especially since they bombed military installations.

        Many Local people, including Hawaiians have served in the US military, and continue to do so. To want sovereignty does not negate what has occurred in terms of their service or the service of others. I worked for the military for many years and I have many relatives who served. It is not ungratefulness, nor money, nor any of the reasons people may think it is, that Hawaiians want sovereignty. It is for the reasons I spoke about earlier.

        I think I should clear up another point. I personally have no idea if Sovereignty for Hawaii will occur and what form it will take. The people that were part and parcel of the illegal overthrow are long dead, that's true. But the US still remains, and in many cases, the families of those people, although I'm not sure what can be done about that. Also, being a Pacific Anthropologist/Archaeologist, I will say nation's who achieved sovereignty had to struggle with economics, and other issues afterwards, finally making alliances with larger entities in the end. I dunno what will happen here, but whatever does, it doesn't have anything to do with color or race, as I mentioned before, one person's anger does not speak for an entire culture of people.

        Btw.. I'm married to a wonderful man, who happens to be happy. My son looks more haole than Hawaiian. I have cousins who are darker skinned, and some lighter skinned. It's a mixed bag. But I live my home, my life, and I pretty much respect people for who and what they want to be, it portray, etc. Is there more traffic with tourism, yes. Do I get irritated that I can't go to the beach with my family and have a party with my family, without strangers walking into the party uninvited? Yes. Is the cost if living higher here because of tourists? No. Everything's shipped in... It's expensive... I could go on

        But... Really it's the same way in any resort community in the world. Seriously. People need to stop making it a racist thing. Geez

      • You present the U.S as a cure but that is a ignorant way of thinking, the U.S forbid the Hawiians from speaking in their native tong, brainwashed future generations into thinking the U.S was a cure. Both of these things and more contribute to the decline of the Hawaiian way of life. The U.S could have created a treaty of protection which would allow the U.S use Hawai'i harbor and in turn the U.S keeps the Kingdom of Hawai'i safe from malicious countries. Sadly that didn't happen and the U.S illegally overthrew the Kingdom.

        • We don't keep you from speaking your native language now, and I haven't heard anybody from your side that sees the U.S. as a cure, so who exactly was brainwashed. You have a ton of freedom, more than you would under a king, and yet all you want to do is hate white people. I'm tired of the excuses for racism against my own people. We won't stand for it anymore. You've take advantage of our respectful nature and good manners long enough. Your people call my people weak and cowardly, well, you've mistaken good manners and patience for cowardice. We are slow to anger just like our God has taught us, but enough time has passed. I will visit Hawaii if I get another chance, I will live there if I get a chance, and I won't put up with any crap from hateful locals. It is a U.S. state, I am free to go there, and free to defend myself and my family from any threats encountered there. Your racist hypocrisy is sickening, and it has poisoned your soul and others like you. I will still extend the hand of friendship to any local that choose not to hate me before they even know me.

        • I was not justifying any rasicm. You can come to the Island if you ever wanted to. Just learn some of our history before you come to the Island, I have a haole friend and I see him almost as a brother. He understood what the U.S did was wrong. I don't blame him for anything what I get mad at is the ignorance of some people who come to the Island and learn nothing about the culture or our history with the U.S. When you come here you need a open mind and not just assume things. Hawaiians and the locals on the Island have a sense of pride for the land and most people still hold to the past because it's so fresh you only have to look back two or three generations and find the Hawaiians that were forbidden from speaking their native tongue. The law thay forbid the use of the Hawaiian language was passed in 1886 and only abolished in 1984. You have to realize Hawai'i was already being ruled by white people because of how powerful the sugar plantation owners had. All I want is for haole to understand the history Hawai'i has with the U.S and that they can't assume that all that's in the pass, and they're are flaws with the king or queen but not all the presidents were inherently good.

        • This is in response to Kaleo'okalani's response to Chris below... my apologies - the web page did not give an option to reply directly to it.

          *SO* I will be the 1st to say that I, personally, can't imagine visiting somewhere with such history and cultural differences from that which I am accustomed and not be FASCINATED by it all thus sparking an urge to learn all about it before visiting. *BUT* That's just me.

          Requiring someone to hit the books (in the form of "Just learn some of our history before you come to the Island") as a prerequisite to being treated equally and fairly is just absurd. I've traveled quite a bit and have yet to come across a similar social norm even remotely on par with this. Should tourists from around the world be required to be familiar with the settlement of las vegas before pulling up to a blackjack table? I know it's not exactly apples to apples, but please take my point.

          Next...

          "I have a haole friend..."

          This is quite humorous to me. Ask any member of a population that is discriminated against on the mainland if they've ever heard:

          "I have a lot of black friends..."
          "I have a lot of gay friends..."
          "I know a lot of XXX..."

          and ask them if that sounds racist... or ANYTHING-ist. Amazing!

          Kaleo'okalan, I'm sorry this post is coming in the form of singling you out. You seem quite open-minded and intelligent (and I think you make a valid argument in your post above)... but that's exactly why your words have disturbed me to the point of my response. You claim you're not justifying racism, but I don't know what else you would call it.

          When the open-minded and intelligent among us take a stance similar to yours, i fear the fallout from the less enlightened.

      • We, as the Hawaiian Kingdom, had and have a good and long standing relationship with the Empire of Japan. It is the americans fault that the Japanese bombed Pearl harbor and turned Pu'uloa into a poisoned wasteland. Try to understand this from a Hawaiian perspective

        • "it is the Americans fault the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor? America had not committed any act of war toward Japan when Pearl harbor was bombed. We had a buildup in Hawaii because Japan had already taken parts of China by force and we're about to move into the south China sea.

          You are wrong. Japan would have taken you by force and they would not have been fair, or friendly. You would have been subjugated.

          I get it you are a racist, you hate white people, and you would rather be ruled by Asians with similar skin to you. You could at least be honest about it, instead if making up your own historical "facts" . You are a liar and a racist, and you disrespect the men that died in Pearl Harbor by saying that we caused the Japanese to bomb innocent people. Maybe you are Japanese and biased because of it. That would explain a lot. I totally understand your perspective. You are a racist , just like most other Hawaiians. I hope we let Puerto Rico in the union, and leave Hawaii out. You can make your own way in the world. Good luck with that.

    • The Chamorro people of Guam are extremely grateful for U.S. protection. I recommend to ANY Hawaiian that is bitter toward the U.S. to look at what happened to Guam during WW2. The Japanese committed what can only be described as atrocities there before the U.S. fought and liberated the island. They did the same in China, and in the Philippines, you know the other people you hate. I am not saying you should hate the Japanese either as they have seen the error of their ways and become a strong ally to all democracies. What I am getting at is that if not Japan then North Korea, or whomever the next psychotic dictator in the world was or will be in the future will have their way with Hawaii without a powerful military protecting it. If "give back" your country then I don't think our military should eve be there anymore because we would be wasting military dollars on a nation that wants nothing to do with us. Keep letting your kids grow u ignorant of the benefits of American statehood and maybe you will be back on your own, although I'm certain that you would still have your hand out as the last ship sails away.

      Teach the kids of Hawaii how to be grateful, how to be welcoming of OUR culture, and put some value on something other than "scrapping" like say, education, or traveling as a student to learn about other cultures. The hypocrisy from every Hawaiian that complains is absolutely mind boggling. You are like the little brother that we want to love, but you are just so smarmy that it's not worth the effort. best of luck on your own if that day ever comes, and it just might with the orange idiot that we have as President now.

      • So using your logic, as long as a nation is taken over by another nation that protects them, then all good? They should be grateful?

        So Philippines should be thankful if China takes over their outer islands because they [China] has a strong military and larger economy? Same for Nepal and Bhutan?

        You're missing the point. Some people place heritage, culture, independence over economics, military power, protection. Some gladly sell out their tradition by words such as "be thankful". "They took my culture and religion and saw the color of my skin as dirty and made me speak the fluent English". And for that be happy?

        That said, we can't change the past. I for one get upset when stronger countries take over other countries and over time kill of their heritage, culture, way of life. Then after few generations people say "be thankful" coz they now bow to new masters and been indoctrinated. That's wrong, but how it is coz winners write history and shape minds of future generations. Become panzies who sold their heritage.

        But it's hard to hold on to the past once you been taken over. Conquering countries don't give up possessions so fast and the citizenry get used to new rulers. Sad but that is how it works.

        China is strong militarily and has aspirations of expanding. Wonder what people would say in those occupied lands in say 100-years if worse case comes to being? "Be thankful" I guess?

        • Actually you are missing the point. You can not have the utopian independent society that you desire, you simply can not. I think you and others romanticize how "perfect" things were before the "hostile takeover by your evil overlords". Most Hawaiians were slaves who worked for the king. They lived of of what they farmed, but gave the king as much as he wanted. So generation after generation of this caste was doomed to servitude. That doesn't sound so great, but whatever. You can not operate as an independent state because you would be vulnerable to a takeover by a country that gives you even fewer freedoms than the U.S. you live in the freest country in the world and it is full of opportunities. You are free to move about the 50 states and make your way in any legal way you see fit, just like other Americans are free to do the same, and Hawaii is one of the 59 states. You think that you can have a perfect independent society if the U.S. would just back off, but it is impossible. Your attitude is no different than white rednecks , or American Patriots from the movie Gangs of New York, or decendants of the founding fathers who feel more entitled than others, and want to block out immigrants who might want to come and have the same great life they have. You are a hypocrite. All Hawaiians that think like you are selfish hypocrites. Get over it. Make the best of the life you have. Move to where the opportunities are. That's what people do. They may not want to leave home, but sometimes their are no opportunities at home, that's how it was for me. I saved a little money and I moved to a place that had more job opportunities. It was a foreign place to me and hard to adjust to, but at least I had a job, and a place to live on my own, and a future that could bring more opportunities if I worked hard and stayed out of trouble. This is life. There is no perfect world, and you are no more entitled to it than anyone else.

        • I think brown skin is beautiful. My wife has brown skin, and my son has brown skin. I have never once heard a white person say that brown skin is "dirty". Why do you think we're all getting skin cancer sitting out in the son with no clothes on? We can't help the color of our skin any more than you can, but we surely don't hate you for having what most of us consider beautiful skin.

    • Im glad you brought that up. I dont think many people understand that about Hawai'i. I think, or at least hope, with the right moment in time that they can reclaim their own sovereignty once again...

    • If its not about race, why are your protecting an institution of ancestral monarchism? Why do you harken to a culturoracial past and speak of the wrong doing of ancestors? Why do you personally have an identity based on those constructs? Why do you ignore the lack of merit on both sides?

      Are you saying that the haoles would become ruling monarch's as well? I'd be against it no matter what race or culture were the "monarch"

  16. People are people all over. If u behave badly in most places, and u happen to be different in some way, skin color, whatever, you might hear some name calling.

    I'm Hawaiian, and I have several degrees. I'm a retired Pacific & Hawai'i Archaeologist.

    First, there has never been any physical evidence of cannibalism in Hawaii. Bones found over the years have no marks or other evidence on them that suggests cannibalism. So, no Hawaiians did not eat Cook or anyone else for that matter.

    Second, the story of a Hawaiian Prince killing his son with boiling water is a myth.

    Third, in almost every place in the world where explorers/conquerers landed, there is a local native word for those people. The word haole is the same. Modern usage of the word has been used as slang and in a derogatory way.

    Fourth, as much as Hawai'i is the 50th state, in many ways it is a product of history and culture, and not the label of statehood. So, if you come to Hawai'i with the idea that people will behave as mainlanders do, you will be in culture shock. We have many mixture of races here. In fact, my son looks white, but has as much Hawaiian blood as other Hawaiians with deeper skin color. People love him for him, well before they meet me and discover he's part Hawaiian with deep cultural and geneological roots.

    Fifth People who come here find Hawai'i a different place, and often that is the reason they come here. And, while Hawai'i is beautiful, the cost of living is high, and living here can be isolating for those from the mainland. I feel ya, I felt the same way on the mainland away from my family.

    In every culture there are always a few bad apples, so yes there are uneducated people, and yes there are people who are rude & mean, etc. It's that way in alot of places in the world. Travel outside of the US, you will see what I mean. Europeans who travel to the US experience culture shock too. Most people like to be respected, especially in their own neighborhoods, Hawaii's neighborhood just happens to be a tourist destination. Think about it. If you traveled to say Rome, would you endeavor to be a good guest, show respect cause your visiting their home, etc.? I think because Hawai'i is a state, people make certain assumptions, and these assumptions not only dictate behavior, but create barriers to understanding each other.

    Sixth, it's easy for us as human beings to justify bad behavior by cloaking it in racism. Hawaiian studies programs didn't exist until the late seventies. Most people knew some Hawaiian history, but we're still in the dark. It's been a relatively short time for Hawaiians to digest it all. And because we are human beings, some get angry. This does not mean that the overthrow didn't happen..it did. And, all the rest.

    Seventh, if you don't feel comfortable here, that's ok. If you do, that's ok too. But, let's be clear. If your rude, people probably don't like you. If you treat others how you like to be treated, you'll probably be fine.

    As a culture, Hawaiians are inclusive. But, we have yet to talk about how much of our culture is appropriated for tourism, and then funneled back to the mainland, or China, or elsewhere. Most tourist dollars don't remain here. For example, do you know Maui chips is a mainland company? What about all those Hawaiian beers? California. I could go on. Buy local from a local person, even if they aren't Hawaiian. Then maybe the tourist dollars will mean more to people.

    I am learning new things everyday while helping my son and other local artists in our shop. It is my son's dream, so there I am.

    Ok I talked too much. That's my two cents.

    • What about the culture that existed in Hawaii before the Polynesians invaded the islands and eradicated them? Did such a culture exist as archeological evidence suggests?

      • It is irrelevant. They determined that by never talking about to begin with.

        The first settlers of Hawaii

        The Hawaiian Islands had been uninhabited for millions of years, until around A.D 300 to 600. The Polynesians from the Marquesas Islands were the first to reach the Hawaiian Islands. Settling by the waters, these natives started small farming systems that became some of their main food sources. Another group of settlers arrived in hundreds of years later. This second wave of settlers were the Tahitians, who were also of Polynesian decent. The Tahitians oppressed the first settlers from the Marquesas, calling them commoners and forcing them to run off and make a living in the mountains. It was the Polynesians from Tahiti who came to inhabit much of the Hawaiian Islands before the first Westerners landed on the Islands in the late 1700s.

        Go figure. The current crop of racist hawaiians are probably decedents of narcissistic polynesians. I highly doubt racism would be a problem if it wasn't for the dominating war culture of the second wave of polynesians....but who knows. Racism is popular with the primitive types and their cult masters.

  17. I moved here 5 years ago. I came with an open mind and an understanding of the cultural differences. Hawaiians I feel are very friendly, and true I do not pretend to be Hawaiian. Hawaiians and mainlanders move in different circles. I was told Hawaiians will not invite a mainlander into their home and they will not enter a mainlander's home either, but I experienced exceptions. I realize I am an invader here, just as in my very small conservative home town where I grew up on the mainland, when a middle eastern family moved in and purchased a convenience store, it was robbed several times. Being a tourist here is one thing, being a resident is another.

    Some surprises since I have been here is that property crime is orders of magnitude above from where I lived in the mainland. Also rape and auto theft is well above the national average. I initially wondered why so many housing developments and individual houses have gated access.The prisons have a revolving door here. Many I hear on the news have multiple felonies and are released with 2 or 3 thousand dollar bonds. And everyone here seems to be on some sort of government assistance.

    My only bad experiences were hiring Hawaiians to do work on my property. I have been ripped off three times now. And they were blatantly and intentionally done. Was I targeted because I am a haole? Perhaps so. I do not know. I do not want to walk around with a chip on my shoulder, but I don't think I'll ever hire a native Hawaiian again.

    Of course all of the above is somewhat a function of what Island you are on. Oahu is more incorporated, Kauai, still very native, and the BI (where I am at), sort of a mix based on community. But I love the weather, easy going life style, and open space.

  18. We are Mauna Kea. I couldn't do much but sign E-protest petitions while this was happening. The protest created a scene of peaceful gathering and strong determination for a sacred place to be left alone. Living in Texas, I'm only limited to do something. After all was done and won I felt my signature counted towards something. I was inspired to get we are Mauna Kea tattood with the islands and location of the mountain. It reminds me that culture is important and societies need to respect that. One day I will visit the mountain, in respect, to pray. I am Hispanic.

    • Yes. A sacred place, where your religious dogma can never be questioned.

      Right?

  19. It’s upsetting that this discussion started off with what resonated with me as some thoughtful, intelligent, respectful and valid comments and arguments from all sides, and now I’m seeing a flood of attempts to justify and promote hate-speech and racially motivated acts of discrimination. I see it coming from people identifying themselves as “white”, which saddens me both that it’s happening and that I, a white male, could be associated with this simply because I’m of the same race. I’m also seeing it equally, if not more, from the locals and natives.

    Some will say that any actions taken (or words spoken) by a group that has been the victim of oppression cannot considered racist when pointed at the group guilty of said oppression because of the power dynamic (past or present). While I wholeheartedly disagree with this for what I believe should be obvious reasons (deliberate mistreatment of someone based on race, religion, etc, etc is wrong. ALWAYS. PERIOD), even if that was the case, I fail to see any “right” in refusing service, shunning from the community, threatening violence or just painting an entire group of human beings in a negative light based solely on their race.

    There is no question that horrendous things that were done to Hawaii and its people in the past are still felt widespread on a large scale today. It would be ridiculous to deny this and even more ridiculous to ask those affected to "just deal with it" or “get over it”. But shouldn’t we ALL be about changing the mindset of people to realize that things like the treatment of the Hawaiians and the land on which they lived is not right? If we change the mindset, the likelihood of similar future occurrences decreases. So yes, I understand and support being deeply upset by the acts of the past and its affect on one's culture. I also believe the most productive course of action to take is to bring about change, not harbor animosity and seek revenge.

    Lastly, there is no question that tourism and masses of “foreigners” moving to Hawaii have driven cost of living through the roof, forcing some locals and natives into less than desirable situations (of which there are many). It can be argued that this happens in all desirable locations and it’s part of the job. True, but we’re taking about Hawaii now and just because it happens elsewhere does not mitigate any of its effects here. However this is not my point. My point is that I agree that it is a very real and very serious problem and as such I would like to think that it can be agreed that the way to fix this is through legislation, however ineffective or hopeless it may seem at times. If there needs to be caps and quotas, they have to be put in place by law/statute. I know that’s easy for me to say not having to live with any of the fallout being endured, but at the same time I’m quite certain that mistreating the people (or groups of people) shouldering the blame for this situation will not resolve it.

    I don’t know much, but I do know that racism or discrimination in any form at any level will not bring about the change we need. it will only feed the beast, perpetuate the cycle and let the ignorance continue to run rampant.

    • Yes. People who complain about being subjected to racism are racist. They cannot get beyond the fact that two people who look alike are not necessarily much alike at all.

      Look. Race is one of many maladjusted mechanisms people use to limit competition. Many people of many "groups" are being discriminated and forced into powerless positions by other "groups" simply so the cult leaders can have more power and the followers can have an inflated sense of value and accomplishment.

  20. I am currently visiting Hawaii (Oahu) for the first time. If I could find a good job here, I'd think really hard about moving here. As a black American, I tend to be very observant of how members of different ethnic groups interact with each other. And although I've only been here for a week, I've noticed that most of the native Hawaiians I've seen are in the service and tourism and entertainment industries (food service, tour guides, bell hops, dancers/entertainers, etc). My heart breaks a little each day because here is yet another group of people who have had much of their land, opportunities, and way of life taken from them. I am from the mainland, but I don't want to be associated with those who have brought hardship to the Hawaiian people. I try to treat all people with dignity and respect, whether his title is "janitor" or "CEO". Please let us visitors know how we can be less obnoxious and help make your lives just a little easier.

    • Agreed, FirstTimer. I too would like to know. I'm a graduate student of linguistics on the mainland, and have always wanted to visit Hawaii-- for cultural knowledge, the beauty of the land, and of course linguistic richness. I just hope that people like you, and myself, people appreciative of other cultures, can continue to better the world and be aware of each other's differences. Let us know, Liz, how we can approach Hawaii the right way. I'd love to visit someday.

    • Probably the simple answer is "go home". But capitalism, even in Hawaii wins out. A lot of cronyism here. Just look at the light rail project.

      But my experience is be nice and you'll get nice in return. Leave your attitude behind. Sometimes, just do not try to understand.

      I was at the grocery store check out counter the other day to pick up a few items. All total about $15. I went to go pay, and noticed I left my wallet at home. The Hawaiian lady ahead of me, who just checked out, heard me, and said to the clerk, "just put it on my credit card". I was TOTALLY surprised. I wanted to try to pay her back some how, but we just settled on that I'll pay it forward. Now I am looking for a good opportunity to do just that.

  21. I am white and I have always wanted to visit Hawaii and Australia and all of South America. I love to learn about cultures a lot and I don't want people not to like us just because we come from the mainland. Hawaii isn't the only place being destroyed. The world population will most likely reach carrying capacity within 50 years or so. Maybe there is a reason for more diseases and deaths. The world can't handle this much at a constant rate. We migrate. I'm sure many Hawaiians have wanted to go to other lands just like we do. I want to there to help people. To learn about their culture and to save endangered species. I want to conserve resources and eliminate human trafficking and torture. I am willing to die to save the earth and help the people and animals. Also America is "free" if you want to call it that, but I say this meaning there are many other races in the USA not just white. We can't help being born here and living the way we do a lot of the time. It doesn't matter what or how we are born , it matters who we become.

  22. Great forum here,(sarcasm) everyone thinks they are special because are a born into a society or race? Hogwash. Either you contribute to the betterment of everyone or you are a leech. WHAT ARE YOU?

  23. 1. If you're of both Hawaiian and White ancestry, you're a Hailewaian--the worst of the worst because it suggests your native kin mated with the enemy, and created you, a symbol of surrender and defeat for all Hawaiians. You should move off the islands unless you're pure Hawaiian.

    2. All Hawaiians living in California should be forcefully relocated to Hawaii because they are taking over our beautiful state with their criminal tendencies, excessive alcohol use, and low levels of education.

    3. If you are a White person born in Hawaii you're still a Haole. No way around this but sorry.

    4. If you believe in Hawaii's right to independence, then start an armed rebellion (if you have the balls).

  24. Lived on the Big Island for 7 years. Found the "locals" to be the most racist, illiterate, culturally inbred people on the planet. And, long-term Mainlanders love to justify all their obnoxious bullshit out of some misplaced sense of guilt or shame. It's disgusting. Want to talk about Hawaiians being mistreated? Well, study how life was in ancient Hawaii amongst the Polynesians. Their's was truly a vicious culture. For instance, the commoners had to lie down on their faces when the Ali'l royalty passed by not to mention the cannibalism and horrific warfare and slaughter between different island groups. Couldn't wait to leave that shit hole. If you want to experience the tropics amongst friendly, welcoming people, try Queensland, Australia. It's far more beautiful than any place in Hawaii.

    • Long-term mainlanders move there because they amounted to nothing in the states. The only place they have influence is in Hawaii.

      • A typical racist comment. What do you know about mainlanders? And what makes you think they want to influence anybody? If you knew anything about your own culture you would know that the Hawaiians were violent people. One of the princes killed his son by making him stand in boiling water because he was crying too much. Tell me again about what a great place it was before the haole showed up? Chances are you would have been born if they haole didnt show up because one of you family members would have stepped on the shadow of an Alii and they would have been killed.

      • It's funny to me how cultures and races like to look down on U.S. citizens and white people for traveling to places and using the native words, trying the native cuisine, and sampling some native music or dance, YET, white, U.S. citizens are expected to accept all races, languages, and cultures coming into their hometowns and states. Now let's say white/U.S. citizens refused to speak other languages or try other foods? They would be accused of being "white supremacists" and turning their nose down at anything different from themselves. Small cultures want the respect, technology, and perks of being a modern-day society supplied by trade and tourism from other races and countries, yet complain about those same people WANTING to experience a new culture and learn about it. On one hand you tell white people to "become educated on other cultures," yet if a caucasian person tries to learn a new language or cook a new type of food, they're "appropriating." Grow up and decide what you want. Assimilation is not appropriation. You either want to be acknowledged by and included in mainstream white society, or you want to be left in complete isolation. You can't have both. And if you choose the latter, don't then blame other for being "racist" or "prejudice."

    • Dear Perry Widhalm,
      The way you refer the locals as illiterate, racist, and culturally inbred show what an ignorant haole you are. We were not a vicious culture, we were not unintelligent, and we were not cannibals. There is no evidence of Hawaiians ever being cannibals. We were an advanced society and we were getting along just fin until you went and overthrew us. And sure, what if commoners had to lie on their faces when Aliʻi passed by. This was as strange to you as bowing to your king was to us Hawaiians. If you could not wait to leave that shit hole, why did you not leave sooner. We do not need your kind here anyway. #Boycott Hawaii? We laugh at that shit. We would be happy if you did not come here. When I say your kind, I do not mean white people. I have some white heritage myself. What I mean by that is that people like you, who do not bother to learn about our history and our culture, do not respect native customs, and do not accept Hawaiʻi as it is, come to our islands and expect it to be a beautiful version of your home and everyone to listen to you. Well guess what, you are the guest here, so if you donʻt like it, why did you come here in the first place jackass?

      • Although, my words were too harsh. Certainly, not every islander we encountered was as I described in my rant. Perhaps 50% - 60% of the islanders were good and decent people. Now, your silly comment serves to validate my points Local Hawaiian Kid. You do not even have the courage to post comments under your own name. You are a typical islander ... angry, ignorant and full of bullshit. FYI, Hawaiians ritually butchered and ate Captain Cook. That is a well-documented historical fact. Did you attend grade school?

        Re-read your post. I, Perry Widhalm, did not overthrow you. What a bizarre and stupid thing to write. And, this may come as a surprise to you but Hawaii is a State within the Union. I am no more a guest in Hawaii than you would be here in Wyoming. I do know the history of Hawaii and a good deal about ancient Polynesia. We did not leave Hawaii sooner because of employment duties. Having a job is probably something you do not understand Local Hawaiian Kid. Are you on welfare? Drug addicted? Alcoholic? In jail? I wish Hawaii would succeed from the United States fool. Hawaii would become another 3rd World cesspool in less than a decade.

        • Mr. Perry Widhalm,

          Your article, at first glance, seems constructive, recognizing a problem and encouraging people to realize certain behaviors maybe actually disrespectful, wether intended to be or not. Your response to "Local Hawaiian Kid" sounds, to me, like the disrespectful visitor you describe in your article. Confused here, very disappointed in your response as a published author I think you could represent yourself, and fellow americans, with some shred of decency.

          "What a bizarre and stupid thing to write.
          You are a typical islander ... angry, ignorant and full of bullshit.
          Are you on welfare? Drug addicted? Alcoholic? In jail?"

          Seems to me you wrote and article calling out a group of people that you clearly belong to.

      • It is infuriating to hear whites talk about losing white culture.

        It is equally infuriating to hear any other race talk in the same context.

        Stop being so dern primitive.

    • Hello I am a white mainlander who has never been to any place outside of my landlocked state but I've always had an interest in history and other cultures and I would just like to say that your comment is the most racist narrow-minded drivel that I have ever read. I don't care if you are on the island for 7 years. every culture on this planet has a long history of violence. most all of humanity come from hunters and gatherers who more than likely spent most of their time eating killing or f-ing. the past was a very violent time because it was a time of survival and war. what I'm trying to get at is even though there is violence in a a cultures past doesn't make them violent Savages especially in today's world. all humans have the capacity of great violence and great evil but they also have the capacity of great good. so you calling the Native people of Hawaii racist and inbred and bringing up violent things from their cultures past is like condemning anyone of Aztec or Mayan descent of being violent bloodthirsty monsters because their ancestors used to sacrifice people by cutting out their hearts. Or condemning all Australians for being wild bushmen or convict because Australia once was a pinal colony.

  25. Enjoy the people who don't care about any of this as your tourists because you have made respectful people feel guilty about going to Hawaii.

    I fear articles like this only polarize tourists even more. As someone who is becoming educated and trying to be culturally sensitive (as culturally sensitive as a white person can be) all I get from this article is that Hawaiians don't want me to visit Hawaii because I am already to blame for ruining Hawaii and it will be further ruined when I visit.

    • I thought i was the only one that thought this was racist as all hell.

    • The destruction has already taken place. The new owners make all the money from their new colony's no one considers the humanity & feelings of those left behind to service building wealth for the new arrivals

  26. I think it's time for all white ppl to do The same thing that modern day African-Americans done about being generalized as black. I'm Scott of Highland decent, so I could be belligerent and demand to be called a Gaelic American... or everyone could recognize the fact that there are white people from many many countries. Within those countries there are different factions of those people. Do you want to know who took your land? The same people who enslaved your ancestors. Period. The British crown and it's cohorts along with the Rothschild investment coven. File for your sovereignty. Declare financial independence and surrender citizenship in the United States of America Corporation. Every single person in every state has the right to be a citizen of only their state

  27. The authors act like White Europeans are from the USA, or is it just me? I'm Native American and the "UNITED STATES" were doing just fine before we were "discovered".

    LOL.

    Scales

    • We share similarities. They wanted to make us a "civilized colony".. But tell me how is holding our king at gunpoint, stealing the authority from our monarchy, and using our land as a commodity, kicking the native inhabitants out CIVIL?

      • They actually didn't want a civilized colony. They tricked you. They wanted your land for themselves.

  28. The world keeps spinning, history keeps moving, things change. It's time to acknowledge and accept the sad truth that everybody knows but nobody wants to admit. Like it or not in ten years time there will be next to no native Hawaiians left in Hawaii as they will just going to keep getting priced out as house prices keep going up and the rich keep moving in until there is nowhere left to go. Hawaii is just not big enough to support both classes. One is going to have to lose. Those that remain will do so at the beset of the tourism industry and expected to demean themselves for the privilege. Gentrification is a beast but it is inevitable. It's what Hawaii's future is and that's okay but let the locals be angry about it if they want. It's just part of the grieving process.

    • Whenever I see comments like this I get so depressed because I feel like you're right, even if I don't want to accept it.

      Yes, this is coming from a Germanic white girl. However, I have been happily married to a native Hawaiian for 9 years now with three beautiful children. We have been trying our best to teach children about the beautiful culture, language, and religion of Hawai'i. Two of our girls are at Hau'ula elementary in a Hawaiian language immersion program. We plan on sending them to Kahuku high where they may continue to learn it. We believe its important for our children, no matter if they aren't native, to learn about the culture they are thriving it. It's difficult enough to find a good introduction to true Hawaiian culture without it being saturated with the commercialized American version.

      I know the outlook seems bleak, but I wholeheartedly believe there's hope for the future.

      • You're a white girl married to a Hawaiian, but are concerned about Hawaiian's losing their identity and culture? While I whole heartily support your decision to love who you love, can't you see the hypocrisy in your union based off of your position?

        Humans through technology and time will eventually all become one race with many cultures. Lets embrace each other as humans and stop worrying about who lives where. There are many Hawaiians living on the mainland too.

        • THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! THANKS, I LOVE THAT STATEMENT. "HUMANS THROUGH TECHNOLOGY AND TIME WILL EVENTUALLY ALL BECOME ONE RACE WITH MANY CULTURES." I COULD ELABORATE MORE BUT IT IS TOO DEEP FOR MOST, NOT YOU THOUGH . PEACE.

      • Hey Rose, where is your conpern for your homeland? Germany is being overtaken by people that absolutely hate you and want you out of Germany. While Hawaiians have legitimate concerns, at least the people visiting now are perpetuating the economy there and aren't demanding safe spaces for being minorities.
        And you should also be offended by native Hawaiians because they don't look at you like you with welcoming eyes, no matter how much you think being married to one gives you a pass. So quit while you're ahead. You're an apologist and probably support the influx of refugees in to Germany. The same refugees that refuse to respect German culture

        • So what you're saying is- she should go back to Germany to make sure native German blood stays in Germany. Hawaiians should stay in Hawaii.
          Why stop there? Africans go back to Africa and white Americans go back to Europe. Asians, of course, need to head back. And let's send all the Jews to Israel- well... technically that's up for debate according to Islam- so let's just kill all of them since they don't have a homeland.

          Apparently Hitler was right all along. Let's segregate the races so we can keep our natural disposition, talents, and culture. Right guys? Smh...

  29. As I start to write this, I have no idea what my typing fingers are going to compose. I just want to write what I'm feeling in this moment. In a word I would say sad and disappointed...okay, that's two words. I'm sure I'm older than most of you (69) and I see things differently; not just because of my age but my life experiences too.

    After reading this article I thought to myself "Jim, have you been living in a vacuum?" As unpleasant as some of it was to read, it also opened my mind to few things I have honestly never thought about. Knowledge is power (to be informed) so I am glad to be aware of these issues now.

    There have been a few times while on Maui that I've encountered some indifference from locals; I refer to it as the occasional "stink eye" but I've never experienced a local getting up in my face with a crude comment or saying to me "Go home haole." When I get the 'stink eye' I just roll with it and don't allow it to get under my skin.

    I have always been respectful of other cultures and its people. While traveling abroad I have seen Americans act rudely and expecting special treatment and have said to my wife many times, "There's an ugly American....I don't ever want to be that guy." My wife and I try to do as little tourist stuff as possible but some of it can't be avoided
    Yes, of coarse Hawaii is a US state but I have always felt differently about this particular state. Could have a little bit to do with getting there takes a plane or a ship but it mostly has to do with the uniqueness of its true people and I try to respect our differences at all times.

    I love Maui and I mean I LOVE MAUI. There is no other place on this planet I would rather be. My wife and I have been talking about moving there for years and we're finally ready to make that move. We just got back to the mainland 2 weeks ago after spending 6 weeks there. We celebrated Thanksgiving, my 69th birthday, Christmas and the New Year there in Kihei. When it was time to leave and go back to the mainland, I did what I always do, I cried.

    I have always struggled to find a place where it feels like I belong. I get stressed out pretty easily everywhere else in the world....not that I'm a stressed out freak show or anything like that but it's hard for me to feel safe and comfortable and relaxed. I came home from Vietnam in 1969 and that war had a horrible negative impact on me. I was a gunner on PBR's (River Patrol) in the Delta and saw a lot of action. I'm all squared away now, some 48 years later but it's still difficult for me to relax and feel completely stress free. That is what Maui provides for me. It speaks to my heart and my soul and it whispers to me with every breaking surf, with every passing breeze, "You are welcome here."

    As I said earlier, my wife and I don't do touristy things at all. We spend hours walking the beach and trails (sometimes 10 miles a day) and we'll wade in the surf and lay in the sun. We watch the sunset every night and then retire to bed early. We don't go out to the night clubs...just not our style (we're older) and we get up early to watch the sunrise. We do this every single day and never get tired of it. I want to continue to live out the rest of my life, doing just that and if I do nothing else but that I'll die a happy and contented man.

    So, all that said, do I find it disturbing that so many local people don't want me there? Yes, I do. I'm not Hawaiian, I'm not a local but I love your island and it's people and even the ones that give me the "stink eye." Maui isn't lying to me when it speaks to my soul and tells me I belong there...tells me I'm welcome there, acknowledges what I've been through in my life and offers me rest and safe haven.

    I hope I hear back from some Hawaiian natives (locals)who will say to me, "Come, you are welcome here." Even if I don't get that warm invitation, I'm coming anyway because I must....my heart tells me I have no choice.

    • I know in my heart that you will be ok there. Your love for the Islands and their people will shine through enough ,so you so not have to worry. Even if you do not hear from any locals, do not worry, for those who would have responded kindly to your post may not even be able to read your post. Trust your gut and go for it. Do not manifest that that is not wanted, only what is, so with that said, go to where you belong and live your life in Hawaii, for you have that right to be there, and just know you will only attract those who accept you. peace to you brother and thank you for your service to our country!!! Mary

    • I want to explain the difference to you about a local and a person of native hawaiian descent. A local is someone who was either born and raised in Hawaii or one that moved here with their parents and was raised here. So with that said, I am a local girl, born and raised on Kauai, and now I am moving away from here because I don't make enough to afford a house here. So my family and I are moving to the mainland, all because "haoles" (meaning foreigner/not local) are moving here and acting like the islands owe them the world and then some. They come here immerse themselves in the Hawaiian culture, give themselves and their kids Hawaiian names, and act like they own the islands. Most of them treat the locals and natice Hawaiians like second class citizens because some of us aren't as "educated" as they are.
      By all means move here to our beautiful state, but respect the locals and the native Hawaiians. There is no one island that is less beautiful than the other, because each one is different. The people here on Kauai are the most friendly from my experience, and so are the people from Lanai and Molokai. Maui and Oahu are the most commercialized. So just remember those people who give you the " stink eye" have good reason to do so, especially when our islands are being disrespected by tourist/visitors. Remember these islands have been our home since "small kid time" even since we were born, just respect them and we all will respect you. Respect is earned, not given to you when you don't really deserve it.

      • Before I begin with what i had planned to begin with below, I will state that….
        * I'm 42 and male
        * I voted for H in fear of T being elected
        * I'm disabled and have been since 2003

        NOW I will begin with a few more facts:
        * I was born and raised on the east coast and currently live in Colorado
        * I have 2nd generation ties to Italy, but for all intents and purposes, I am white, white, stark white as can be.
        * I consider myself to be well-educated, exponentially open-minded and that through background and life experience, I am in favor of increased diversity and drastically opposed to the structures and conditions that hinder social (among other types) equality justice.

        I’ll be the first to say that, to me, what locals and natives have posted here (and communicated through dozens of additional spaces) is both justified and accurate with respect to both their subjective and objective statements. I do however choose to respectfully disagree with some of what I’ve heard/read/ingested/experienced with respect to the general sense of “distaste” (to put it lightly) towards the non-locals, Haole and, god forbid, tourists in general from across the globe.

        To reiterate, the colonization, the violence and myriad of atrocities of the past that have all but destroyed an entire, beautiful, long-standing culture are disgusting and inexcusable. There will never be an argument to effectively mitigate any of that and no fix to bring back what was robbed in the process. For that myself and (hopefully) other human beings, I lament.

        My issue pales in comparison to what I touched upon above… again, I’ll be the first to hitch my cart to that horse. And I *almost never* feel so moved by someone else’s free will that I feel the need to reply interwebs-style. Maybe it’s because i’m disabled and in addition to enjoying all the perks afforded by “white-man-hood”, I can slightly identify with an outnumbered, underserved population. Maybe it’s because my S/O is an educator and has made it her life’s mission to eradicate the aforementioned social injustices and, I believe she couldn’t be more on on-point.

        But to get right down to brass tacks, I take serious issue with anyone who believes that inequality based on something that makes someone (or a group of someones) different… regardless of the history and/or motivation. I understand the urge to shoot a “stink eye” to a tourist crowding up a local’s beach. Being a mainlander, I won't bother tossing out catch-phrases like “capitalism” and “free market economy”. Argue that if you like… I feel it will rapidly go south and evolve into a larger ideology… but that’s neither here nor there. My point is that condoning hate and/or prejudiced acts/speech is NEVER ok. Understandable at times? Sure… i’ve been on that end myself. But to allow/endorse anything of that nature for any reason is wrong.

      • No they dont have "good reason" to do so. All because another guy with white skin disrespected their island, doesnt mean that they should take it out on James or any other white person who is giving their island the respect that it deserves.

        Do so is called racism. Something that the human race is trying to get away from.

        • they give you the stink eye because when you decide to visit, act all "american" (you know the type), and disrespect their island, you are benefiting from the atrocities of colonization committed years ago. it's like if someone kicks your door in and robs you. and then i just happen to walk by, see your door open, and walk in and help myself to your food, your bathroom, your tv, etc.

          i could argue "hey! don't be mad at me! i'm not the one who broke into your house. it was open when i got there!" but i've clearly taken advantage of your door being broken. definitely not ok.

        • Amen!!! You are absolutely correct. Happy you said it because I was going to.

    • But you truly enjoy it here and you appreciate and are respectful. Plus when you act/are/seem more local then you're treated as such. Until we see your actions or know how you feel /talk you're just a haole so maybe that explains the stink eye thing . (It may not be right , but it's understandable when many haoles have been dicks and even tried to demonize locals for their own racial propaganda.

    • I agree. Hawaii has such a pull. The most beautiful place on earth and I give it all the respect it deserves. Even if I get a few hateful stares and you know those have been for the locals that work at the airport checking us in. Yelling across to another, Here's another one. Unfortunately that person I took to task right on the spot as this was plain hate in front of 100 people. Neither one of us was the winner but hopefully he will keep that hate inside and not disrespect the next passenger. Like you said I will be back.

  30. I've seen a lot more replies since I made my reply because it notifies me by email. Something I'd like to make people aware of is that my home state of Florida Did not choose to be a part of the United States of America either. Neither did any of the southern states, Territories, or even the neighboring country of Texas. But just as I had to give in and come to the realization that my home in Northwest Florida had changed and was never going back to the way it was, many people here need to accept that that it has and will continue to happen in Hawaii as well. I moved here because I had a financial opportunity and because once I got here I saw that the attitude of the people, while a little different flavor, was reminiscent of the way it was when I grew up in the deep South. Most people here stand up for their self and handle their own problems and don't go crying to everyone when something bad happens to them. To all of the whiners making comments about one in the white people to go away: my friend Alex can trace his lineage as far back if not further than anyone I've heard of on the island. And while he does fight for what the United States done for other native groups, I can quote him as saying that "if it weren't for all the white people here all we'd have is a bunch of damn beautiful land and be up to our ass mangoes" ... "i'd rather see my daughters have a college education and be able to go anywhere without being under educated are out classed" so there are benefits and their negative impacts. Start looking at the white people here on an individual basis not as a group who wronged you because not a single one here has wronged you in any way. Some are a burden and you should want them gone, but in that case use that same spirit also admired when I first observed it, and kick their ass and put them on the plane. If you're not willing to do that stop crying... you're an embarrassment to your ancestors, who were a brave and noble people.

    • You're wrong. All of the southern states after the originals lobbied to be brought into the Union, Texas included.

  31. I live on the east coast of the US and had no idea Hawaiians felt this way. I'm sad to hear it. I'm a descendant of a similarly occupied nation and I doubt they will ever be free. That said, if the majority of Hawaiians would like to secede we should let them.

    • I'm in Maui right now with my husband and for the past
      10 days the resentful looks are consistent throughout the day no matter if entering the Maui Ocean Center or checking in for our whale watching tour. We have been to this lovely island 6 times , but have not been for 12 yrs. We won't be back and I'll try to discourage my clients (I'm a travel agent since 1978) coming here.
      There are too many people here, plain and simple and I don't blame the locals at all. We've ruined your beautiful
      island, and I hope I can help in my small way by not returning. Aloha. and all the best to you Maui

    • Where my proud Americans at? America has done nothing to stigmatize or decrease the value of Hawaiians. If anything, America has helped bring Hawaii into the era of representative governments and industrialization which has helped them more in the long run.

      • You can be a proud American, but also recognize others right to pride in their own culture. You're missing the point of the article, unfortunately, and I hope you'll open your mind to it.
        We could argue endlessly about the economics of Hawaii being taken over by the USA, with both sides coming in with pros and cons. The stark reality is that the economic details are complex, there were good sides and bad sides. Anyone who insists otherwise isn't being objective and measured in their analysis (money came in, but as a result the cost of living has likewise become nearly prohibitive, pushing out native Hawaiians from their incestral lands).

        What the author is talking about is the erasure of their culture, the whitewashing of it, as a result of their home being turned into a version of Disneyland. The example of a mock papal hat the author referenced was apt; imagine how offended Americans would be if Hawaiians turned America into a tourist destination, filled with offensive caricatures of Christian culture? It's not possible of course, due to the differences in scale, but this is precisely what happened with Hawaii. The plastic grass skirts, the Hawaiian shirts, the fake leis, all of these things serve to make Hawaiian culture into just another cartoon, something frivolous and fun; whereas for Hawaiians, this is the history of their ancestors, and as a result holds a lot of symbolic weight for them. Meanwhile, the average American knows next to nothing about Hawaii, and can't be bothered to care.

        While the money and governance question is the one you bring up, the author is speaking about something more vital; identity. You don't have to be either liberal or conservative to see their point of view; it's not about our "feelings" as Americans reading this, it's about their history and the steady decline of their identity.

      • Let me give you a little history lesson because obviously you haven't done your research or your homework. In 1898, the Hawaiian language was banned for being spoken in schools. The ban wasn't lifted until 1986. This caused the Hawaiian language to become an endangered language. There are about only 1,000 native speakers left (most live on Niihau) and about 8,000 who can speak and understand it. Compare that number to the 1700s which was estimated to be 500,000. Not only did this happen, but the Christian missionaries tore apart our culture, including hula. Hula was our way of passing down stories and morals. So much has been lost because of those days. So yes, the U.S. did ALOT of harm to the native Hawaiians.

        Just to let you know, Hawaii's monarchy was far more advanced than America was at the time. First of all, we had working electricity in Iolani Palace (1886) and most homes/businesses (1887-1890) before the White House (1891). At the time, most over 90% of Hawaiians had a higher literacy rate in both English and Hawaiian. I also wouldn't be so proud of the whole representative governments thing at the moment if I were you. Trump is president and most of Hawaii is so not happy with that. I take issue with the whole 'representative' part. Representing who? It's not the majority or minority groups. More like the top 1%. So no, you did not help us in the long run. We were completely fine before the American businessmen with the help of the U.S. military, overthrew our Queen. I know the history of my people and the suffering we have long endured. Educate yourself before throwing out your alternative facts next time.

        • @Cyrnean So have your verified your ancestors to the Marquesas Islands? If so, that's a heck of a lot of family documentation! Not many people can go back nearly 2000 years

        • You were making a very good sincere and thoughtful argument until you mentioned Trump. Then you turned you whole post into a political thoughtless rant.

        • @Scales7 You can't prove the 'theory' that Hawaiians came from the Marquesas Islands. It's a speculation and not a fact. Nice try though.

          @Dave "Political thoughtless rant" huh? Actually no. Go read the post I actually posted it for. He mentioned representative governments and obviously Trump is part of that. He's made empty promises and he doesn't represent what he's promised to the LGBTQ community and others. I wasn't going off topic and it was entirely reasonable to respond as such. If you have a problem with that, find someone else to share your sentiment with because I certainly don't.

        • Who broke the kapu, and then invited missionaries from New England into Hawai'i? Your Ali'i. You can hardly blame whitey for showing up when he was invited by royalty. And the missionaries worked to end slavery in Hawai'i, to codify the Hawaii'an language, and some of their descendants even worked to keep Hawai'i independent. So it wasn't all bad. Like most history, it's complicated.

        • That sounds good. How can a place taken by force that have everything removed & the people their don't matter, their true history be eliminated be better off? The people who benefits on taxes, tourism's, & real estate won't be shared with them. Ask the American Indians who had their black wall street bombed just because they were doing better than their invaders. Ask all the indigious people who are call immigrates & forced to leave a country if their ancestors 1,000's of years to get use to it. I guess I don't understand greed. Most countries were doing fine. Before they were taken over by foreigners. No other culture does this then belittle the people & their nations once devastated.

        • You know, Crynean, I stopped at your first snarky sentence. It was so ugly I have no interest in your history lesson.

        • @Cyrnean

          So you don't really have any verification from your family tree as to where you are from right? You just have a "theory" you can't prove either, so it's called, I FEEL like a real Hawaiian so it makes me one.

      • So it's okay to be like "yeah! Murrrica! And take whatever whenever and then say you should be greatful we fixed you."!? Your thinking is majorly skewed.

    • Change is uncomfortable. I also live on the east coast of the US and have never been to Hawaii, but I hear this all the time in response to "gentrification" in New York City. I'm white, I live in a mostly black neighborhood and I get the "stink eye" by my neighbors for not belonging for "kicking them out" of their neighborhood, and making prices go up. I've been assaulted and called racist terms for parking near someone driveway a block from my house. I literally don't know how to feel.

      Should I make sure since I'm white to only move to neighborhoods that are white? If a neighborhood is black should I not move there out of respect for the residents?

      • Good point. All wrings are done now, but how to learn to be at peace considered a second class citizen who teen sons are not safe from law enforcement because of amendment 13. Everyone is not accountable for what happened & we have to understand we can't take everything out in each other. That's going to be hard with the president of some of the people that we have now. I just see world war lll to end it all. World war l & all were division of Africa. Apostolic l & ll. How do we expect so much blood shed (wars & rumors of wars) to end good?

  32. Grow up!!! I am tired of people complaining. Karma is a bitch, so leave it at that and be kind to all who respect you. Spread kind words and forgive.

    • Said the white American lady. Don't comment about a race/ethnicity you know barely anything about. How would you feel if your culture was saturated by the commercialism of another one? Indeed, we do need to move on but you don't need to be harsh.

      • Im Native American just visited Maui. Its beautiful but too many people. I was hoping to see more native Hawaiins to experience the native culture. I met a few who were so very nice and very willing to share their history and the Hawaiin values. There are too many tourists i feel.

      • Rose youre an idiot. "White" is a slang term for European. Did you think Europeans weren't part of the human race? Or what? Because ill learn you a few things for your own good.

        I am american, however I am decended from slavic people. Do you know where the word slav comes from? Take a wild guess! The word "slav" in serbian means "slave". My people are literally named slaves. And actually, contrary to ignorant belief, we were the most enslaved people on the planet! Ever! Over thousands of years! Slaves! Whipped, broken, killed, beaten. Well before africans were even bothered or your precious islands were found! And you wanna know something else? I have never heard my family even speak of it. I had it learn it in school. None of my slavic friends, family, or peers ever talk about it. We moved the fuck on. Why dont you try that?

        But dont forget that Im "white" lmfao.

        • That's true of Slav but that was when Europe was uncivilized & having having 500 years wars at a time, plagues & dark ages colonization did allow them to become more civilized but at the expense of other nations. How do you get rid of the fallout when nonwhites are treated different. Your new administration will & has diminstrated thus outcome. What should these people & their families do in the mean time, they will never be white.

    • Seems like the perfect answer unless you are the one still under the bigotry blanket. The old saying, Sins Of The Father. Well we as (White) people have a lot a repair work to do. Yes be kind and forgive is a start but it goes so deep and so engrained in the people who are on the receiving end of all this hatred that it is hard if not impossible for them to see the light at the end. So first thing to remember is "Grow Up" is not an answer.

      • TRUE DAT!! Margaret Anderson, well said. If that viewpoint could be grasped by more, we'd be moving in the right direction for sure. Similarly, reciprocating thought processes would put us that much further ahead. But again, WELL SAID!

  33. I think the reason why everyone is so uptight about hating the white man, is because it's being taught that way. Born and raised here, I'm 35 years old and all of a sudden Hawaiian studies is "Hate the white man because they did this. Hate them all because of that!" What ever happened to teaching about how the Hawaiians lived, like fishing and growing kalo. You don't hear or read about the Makahiki anymore because, maybe it was written out by the activists who want to have a kingdom again. Who's bright idea to change the teachings of Hawaiian ways into hating the people who came to pitch an idea of a religion called Christianity? I'm not trying to make trouble, but what I was taught back in the day, was that THEY liked Christianity and is why all the issues with the overthrow is because they let it happen.

    • Did you seriously just say they just let the overthrow happen? You realized that the Queen was threatened right? She felt like she didn't have a choice. She also went to Washington D.C. to try and rectify that. President Cleveland was trying to give Hawaii back, but his term finished before his wishes could be carried out. The next president took the exact opposite stance which then made it impossible to give Hawaii back to its rightful monarch.
      BTW my Hawaiian Studies classes were NEVER like how you described it and I had quite a few growing up. I graduated from Kamehameha and participated in various native Hawaiian programs. My kumus taught me about my history and my ancestors. They taught me to respect and take care of the land. They've taught me many things and none of it included 'hate the white man!' Anyone who has truly listened to their kumu talk about the folktales and history will tell you what I have. You are talking about the internet and articles that people post these days. Do not mistake that for hearing it directly from a kumu or kahuna.

      • YOU KNOW WHAT CYRNEAN? I'm sick of being blamed for something my ancestors did. That's like me attacking you for something that happened 800 years ago. It has nothing to do with you. I mind my own fucking business and don't bother anyone, but I still get called ha ole or cracker even though I go out of my way to help others. It's racist Hawaiians and blacks that are changing my values. I used to be a people person, but now I'm growing putrid hate for natives because I'm discriminated against, even though I mind my own business. Get ready, because this anti-white bullshit is all coming to a head, and I for one have grown cold to this "blame whitey" bullshit and will show no mercy to anyone if the shit ever hits the fan.

        • Haha it has nothing to do with me. That's a straight up joke. When your 'ancestors' changed history to what we know, it certainly did affect me! Who the hell calls you cracker in Hawaii. That's a mainland term. I'm fine with most 'haoles.' It's the ignorant disrespecting haoles that I have a problem with.

          BTW everything about my post had to do with history and MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE to Lilykoi's post. There was no racism in it, so I don't know where the hell you got that from my post. A lot of people don't know the history or get to experience what I have.

          I'm sorry that you feel that you've been attacked many times and that you have become jaded against certain races. However, you have no idea how we feel or the rights that have been and continue to be violated by the American government. You don't know the struggles of my people and I'm assuming you don't care either. Turn a blind eye to all of it like you're doing now because obviously it's working out so well for you. Keep 'minding your own business' instead of having an open mind and being willing to learn from the natives. That's your problem.

        • Is your rant supposed to be a threat? LOL! Oooo I'm scared. No one is blaming you for what your ancestors did. But your peers are responsible for perpetuating racist ideas and practices to the detriment of minorities. Within 50 years, whites will no longer be the majority in the US, and that has many of you frightened and angry, hence your hatred of Obama and your support if Trump. The way you treat minorities over the next few decades might very well set the tone for how whites are treated when they inevitably lose political power. And you people are presently setting a piss poor precedent and example.

        • No matter the race, everyone deserves peace. I don't see how that will happen during this administration. Too many wounds being reopened...

    • I lived on the Big Island in '99 and '00, worked in a hospital, and found the people who disrespected me (a non-Portuguese Caucasian) most were the ones who had little or no Hawaiian ancestry. It seemed they were trying to prove how Hawaiian they were by disrespecting anything American/mainland/white. The Native Hawaiians I got to know, mostly because I went to church with them, were decent people. I also have to say that nobody gave me stink eye, called me a haole or told me to go home while I was taking care of a sick or injured family member.

    • Thanks for your perspective Lily. I resent the negativity aimed at white Americans in general because I am white, but I know that there are some really annoying , bullish and even evil white people. This thread has made me a little more defensive, and a lot less likely to visit again, however it is good to hear from you about Hawaiian culture the way I understood it to be growing up. I would hate to see those teachings becoming fewer and farther between. I do not want to see Hawaiian culture disappear, on the contrary I hope and pray for it's preservation while incorporating a tolerance of other cultures. It's really not so much the "white man" that makes things worse as it is the rich man, which comes from all different backgrounds. I know you can see this, and hope others can too. Thanks again for your honesty, unbiased opinion. I am not sure that my opinion is even unbiased anymore, but people like you make it easier to come back to a more objective way of thinking. Take care.

      • That's so true. That is why most people get along & live one another. Its not an easy pill to swallow having your language, culture of your fathers, land & wealth removed from the treasures of the people who put it there. The world is one big understanding and all people are lied to by their colonists. The Bible warns of this day when pagans rule. " God's people scattered all over the world shall perish because of lack of knowledge & being void of understanding " " most people will not know the different in a lie & truth" so captured people all over the world do have ligit concerns, unfortunately it falls on deaf ears. In spite of it all these people are still taught love not hate as their slave masters. Although people are concerned about their oppression & lack of freedom to live their culture, speak their language or educate their children in math & language of their people, so their whole civilizations are lost even the great Egypt. They lost hundreds of thousands of years of culture. The 5% that was not burned by Greeks & Romans civilized them. However building empires continued with destruction of those societies as well.

  34. One more point I would like to make, the Hawaiian people have been so rude and hateful to me, I don't leave my house unless I absolutely must. I can't wait to get away from Hawaii, I'm miserable on this god forsaken rock.

    • So leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

  35. I've lived in Hawaii over 30 years, I still am refused service in stores owned by some Asians. I was beat on by a local girl I worked with. I notice the animosity from some locals and Asians every day.
    What gets me is no matter how much local Hawaiians hate outsiders, U.S. dollars and Japanese yen are loved no matter the percentage of native Hawaiian blood the locals are mixed with. By the way, as much as the local Hawaiians hate Americans, they love the U.S. entitlements.
    And another thing, I met a couple a few years ago that was trying to get financial assistance so their daughter could attend the prestigious Hawaiian school. It didn't bother the local husband that his Japanese wife earned enough memory that they took the whole family for a two week vacation at Disneyland Tokyo.
    I have met so many people of different cultures but some of the Hawaiians want it both ways. They hate us and they want us to leave the islands but they want the same rights as as everyone else if they go to the American mainland.
    If they hate Americans so much, why do they spend so much time and money gambling on the Ninth Island of Las Vegas?
    I myself have been so mistreated by the locals I've begun to hate living here. But I suppose that's their plan after all.

  36. I have read through this and I'm so saddened by all of the harsh comments. I will certainly not pretend that I have a higher value of my opinion than others. EVERYONE has a right to their opinion. And by what I'm about to say, I am not dismissing wrongdoings of the past. I'm Caucasian by heritage (a small portion Native American too). I am a lover of history. I am what people call a "tree hugger". I am ignorant at times and I'm head strong. Most importantly I'm human. Now I keep using "I" because I only have the experiences that I myself have encountered. I certainly don't know everything. But the way I see things if I cut my hand my blood will run the same as any ethnicity. I support humans. We have history, good and bad. The fact that whites have belittled so many is infuriating to me. When it boils down to it we are all equals. I'm an American, Native and European. I've read the history books, I've watched the documentaries, I've listened to the stories. And I still don't fully understand, I can't possibly do that. All I ask if whoever you are is willing, please keep an open mind. Don't get angry at one persons remark and blame an entire culture, ethnicity, etc. I can't see all Hawaiian Natives to be harsh or otherwise towards whites and vise Versa. We are all unique, individual and have our own opinion. Please don't use a blanket term to speak harshly of others. I'm not talking to just Whites or Hawaiians. I'm talking to everyone everywhere.

    • finally someone gets it and wants to move forward. This is a great way of thinking and maybe some people can forgive and move forward as well. Just remember every race at one time or another were enslaved or slaughtered. We are all one!

  37. I am a New Zealander, and I can tell you this, with my life long experience of growing up around the Maoris and Polynesians, that these people are the most lazy and shiftless people you could hope to encounter. They are arrogant and think you owe them a living, because we 'colonised' their country. Hawaii, I can tell you from visiting that Shithole with its unfriendly locals, is the most NOT to visit place on the Globe, pity when Europeans arrived an epidemic plague didnt wipe them out.Stay out of the dump and visit The Maldives instead.

    • How disrespectful are you. Not everyone in hawaii are lazy, shiftless people. We work hard to live here and just get by on rent. And what you sayin about locals being unfriendly. Not every local you see here is disrespectful, over here you show respect to get respect, we ain't going to respect you if your attitude is like that. I mean, some locals here can be hateful towards tourists but just because they hatin that does not mean all of us are. We are actually pretty welcoming towards tourists and show them respect so don't be sayin we arrogant and unfriendly. Why are you even commenting, there's a saying called "if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all", what if other people went and said that new Zealanders were dirty, uneducated people and that their counrty sucked. I'm pretty sure no one would like that

      • I totally agree with you. I Love the Hawaiians, I treated everyone with Love and Respect. Oahu is my second home. Don't let rudeness override your happiness.

      • @Hoku Kohalauve Your mistake is that you're trying to reason with an open white supremacist A.K.A. a terrorist. As soon as you read ''pity when Europeans arrived an epidemic plague didnt wipe them out'' that should have let you know that you're talking to a terrorist.

        • It's ok for you people to call out whites, but God forbid anyone call you out. You people are nowhere NEAR perfect, but you think you are. If "you people" offends you, then pull up your big girl panties and move along.

      • I agree for the most part. But when one has been on the receiving end of the hate it is a hard pill to swallow. Our last trip to Kauai we tried finding a road that had the B&B we were staying at.Had no map and decided to just ask the locals. Four locals gave us directions including one police officer that took us in a circle bringing us back to where we started. What should have been a 20 min drive took us 3 hours. Oh just look for the house we lava rock across the front. Plenty of those to choose from. We know this because the B&B showed us on a map how we were routed and I found that so sad it ruined my visit on Kauai. I will never go back. A main road that nobody knew where it was? On the other hand have met warm and friendly islanders but it is the hateful ones that leave a mark.

    • Eddie Quit's comments are disgraceful. I am ashamed - but sadly not surprised - that a fellow New Zealander would spout such bigoted, hateful nonsense. It saddens me to think of all of the entitled, petty and small-minded people who share his view that live, not only in NZ, but elsewhere. Educate yourself Eddie.

  38. What a ridiculous article, however it is interesting to see that even on the Islands there exists a silly 'social justice' attitude of entitlement like there is with "native" folks in the States too. But allow me to explain to the angry natives how things really are; how the world really works:

    You can feel disrespected all you like but had it not been the United States colonizing your precious islands it would have been somebody else. Maybe the Spanish, maybe the French, the Japanese, the Russians or even worse the Portuguese. Do you Hawaiian natives really think that it would not have been someone else? LOL, please wake up and smell the Kona coffee!!!

    I'm from England and a looooong time ago the Romans decided take over Britain. There really wasn't going to be any stopping them; Romans were like that--- they did what they wanted. Difference of course for us Brits is that we aren't still whining about it today.

    So for all you rude Hawaiians who seem to get so much personal delight from being rude to tourists----- GROW UP! You really aren't that special in the big scheme of things. And if you really think your monarchy is coming back anytime soon----well, don't hold your breath.

    • You are so. rude. Does it make you feel good being a bully and then boasting about it? People like you make it hard to move around this world as Americans. Jerk.

      • I agree CLT that they make all of us look bad!!! I would love to visit, but this article made me think otherwise, and this is what they intended it to do. I am saddened that there are so many hateful people in the world.

    • This is to address the ignorant comment made by Donny Brook. The world works in very wrong, unjust and their is no way to justify it. Whether you had your native land taken away hundreds of years ago or recently it does not make it right. The People of Hawaii are special and they do deserve respect and the white people of the island and tourists remind them of the land that was unjustifiably taken from them. They were taken by force and many of them killed and imprisoned. What did the Portuguese do to you to make you so angry with them. Please put your British ego in a small box and grow up. The British people are not superior human beings. All humans are equal regardless of race or ethic background and it's amazing to me how only the Caucasian population seem to have a problem with racial superiority disease. Please keep your ignorance to yourselve and let the Hawaiians carry themselves how they please. I don't think they care if the monarchy comes back or not but I do believe that they have the right to feel resentment towards invaders of their beautiful island that they maintained peacefully and happily before it was taken away.

      • No one has to leave Hawaiians to do anything, that's the way the world works,nature doesn't have rights and wrongs. The native Hawaiians would have either ceased to exist or would still be hurling spears at one another if not for the European arrival there and more specifically the American acquisition of the islands. Does the lion owe the gazelle he eats because he did it? Is that wrong? Couldn't he have tried to find some berries instead? Please. America does not owe anything to Hawaii or the Native Americans or the African-Americans or the Japanese or anyone else, that is the way the world works. As far as "appropriating their culture" by using words in their native language, are you f*cking joking? So if I go visit Germany, or Malaysia,or Brazil I should speak only English right? Because to learn anything in the countries' respective languages would be shamefully appropriating their culture. I should also refrain from eating their traditional food too, right? Not my cultures food I couldn't just appropriate it like that. And if I were to so disrespectfully to eat Malaysian food while in Malaysia, I shouldn't order "char kway teow" because that's THEIR word and I don't say it right. I should expect them to understand when I say I want the "noodles with chicken and shrimp stuff", right??? These libtards legitimately make me laugh. I can't wait until shit hits the fan and all the p^ssy liberal "hey you can't do that that's mean" shit goes out the door. I can just imagine the Chinese invading the west coast and just mowing down thousands of you cucks standing there chanting "HEY, HEY HO, CHINESE INVASION HAS GOT TO GO"

        • Okay so first of all you obviously don't know your fucking history so you're about to sit the fuck down and learn. I wouldn't talk if i were you. You know nothing of what our ancestors had to go through. You call this a successful country well then obviously you're as ignorant as the white people who only thought of my ancestors as slaves. When chinese people come to invade us which is highly doubtful because china supplies us with everything. Most of the people in hawaii are probably chinese. So when they invade hawaii the only ones getting hurt is the white people. So watch your fucking back your ignorant son of a bitch.

      • I think it has more to do with the threats of violence, and the fear of finding yourself in a situation where you are out numbered and a mob mentality decides to beat someone to death for being haole. I think this is more perpetuated by local MEN toward visiting MEN, but maybe some Hailey women have had the same problems. For the record when I was there the only stink eyes I received are from what appeared to be Japanese locals. Hard to tell from looking at someone what their background is, but generally I could tell they were not native Islanders. The women were all very nice, and I never picked up an any insincerity at all from them, and I am pretty good at picking up negative vibes. Wish I wasn't.

    • Donny, that was the most insensitive response I have ever read. See you white people are the ones with a sense of entitlement. My family is Native American and experienced the same thing the Hawaiians did. How did you feel when 9-11 happened? How would you feel I'd Isis came and forced you to be Muslim and live the way they do? You can't imagine that because your white pride won't allow you too. Europe is not being threatened by terrorist on a daily basis, so its easy for whites to be so insensitive.

      Also, who said anything about being happy with the monetary, racist and materialistic way of life that your ancestors have bullied into other people's culture? Some people enjoy peace, life, family and friends and not a bunch of bullying. You are totally wrong for your response and you need to humble yourself! Leave that white privilege to the side for a second and think like a considerate, humble, and decent human being without the false filters.

      • "My family is Native American and experienced the same thing the Hawaiians did."

        Unless Mom and Dad are 150+ years old, like hell. Everyone who took part in the atrocities against American Indians are long dead and gone. [Nevermind the fact more then 90% of all American Indians died because of disease, without even having to meet the European settlers at all.]

        "Europe is not being threatened by terrorist on a daily basis, so its easy for whites to be so insensitive."

        Excuse me? Yeah, because experiencing 4 Terrorist Attacks in 10 months (like France) is somehow better than the "terrorism" of White people living in America.

        "Also, who said anything about being happy with the monetary, racist and materialistic way of life that your ancestors have bullied into other people's culture?"

        Because they do. We didn't have to 'bully' anyone. People like Capitalism because they need/want money and it makes them rich. That is how the World works.

        • You know Kimberly being Native American is a lot more then just blood. It's culture, spirituality and a way of life and knowing your people. You can be brown on the outside and white inside. Adopting colonialism and manifers Destiny makes you more western/European

      • The basis of this entire article was rude and insensitive. So, when someone like Donny responds back "insensitively", that's what the author gets. What has happened to Hawaii over the past 200 years is not a matter of good and evil, AND "white" people that tour these islands are not to blame. If you look up the history of the island, the Kings and tribe leaders consistently sold the land here and exploited their own people. Simple. Years later, greedy businessmen and greedy developers have overpopulated the island making it difficult for natives to live here. I don't think it's right for the mainland to point at Hawaiins and say "You're Welcome" for being part of the U.S., but at the same time, I do believe that if the U.S. didn't make Hawaii a state (by the way, it was on overwhelmingly 93% vote to Statehood by the people of Hawaii), Japan or China would have colonized and exploited the island. I live in a tourist area as well with ski resorts 10 minutes from my house. I have watched home prices skyrocket and our neighbors rent out their homes to tourists. I don't cry about it, I just try to embrace it and realize that growth and development in a cool place is inevitable. I feel bad that the author and many other Hawaiins feel this way about tourists. I wish it was different and I would love to know the people here better. Everytime I come here, a local always does something or says something dicky or racist to me or my kids...every time. BUT most of the locals here are pretty cool. When I get treated crappy, I don't whine, I don't cry, I just realize that they don't have a perspective about people and like to categorize people as they know how. It reminds me to be cool and welcoming to tourists in my hometown and realize they're just trying to see and experience something they don't get at their home. I get it, we all get it. Hawaiins want their island back. Last time I checked, Somoa, Tonga, Fiji, Guam are all still pretty untouched. If you really wanted to get away from all "white" people, move there cause tourists are not going to stop coming to Hawaii, it's just reality.

    • So first of all the white people took over the Hawaiian islands. You guys can keep on saying that without all you white people we wouldn't have any of this kine stuff. But you all can keep your "stuff". Hawaii would be a much more happy place without it. I don't know if you knew but Hawaii as of forever has always been the most peaceful place in America. It has the lowest ratings of murders or any kine criminal activity. The white people ruined everything for us in Hawaii. It's funny how you guys think this country is such an amazing one and peaceful and successful one. The only way it has been successful is from the back of the slaves that were my ancestors. So don't go around thinking this is a mean article. There are way more then 7 reasons why we hate you. In return for our beautiful islands we get diseases and you bring in more people. If you guys were'nt involved with us then Pearl Harbor probably wouldn't have been bombed. They took Hawaii. They took Samoa. They took Micronesia. They took polynesia. Yet you guys still have the nerve to supply other armies with weapons, food, and money to destroy papua new guinea. So Shut up and if you want to say something go and learn your history first you ignorant white bitch.

      • "They" gave you freedom of speach so you could go on Internet forums and speak your mind without fear of censorship or imprisonment.

        • And freedom of speech is something that is exclusively for white people to give? What an idiotic comment. Also, learn how to spell before you post. "Speach" isn't a word.

        • Duly noted on the spelling lesson and thank you Gerald. I can't connect the dots with your logic, Why do you think I mean "white" when I used the term "they"? The intention of my post was to bring attention what America and its ideals have provided. ALL it's citizens enjoy freedom of speech without censorship or imprisment. The post was not intended to be racial at all. You took it there.

      • peace and not all whites are bad, just our USA politicians who are soon to be ousted. Your right about our politicains/presidents having done horrible things to other countries and Hawaii. The globalists are to blame, and they control the leaders of all countries. It is these people who must be stopped and hopefully one day these countries and Islands can go back the way they want. This is my hope anyway, peace to you and I would love to visit Hawaii one day. Just remember that there are many whites who admire your people and would love for them to have it back they way it was. At least this is my hope and desire!!!

      • I am not condoning slaverly in the least but, but nearly all races and nationalities has endured slavery at some point. I am 75% German but I dont me say, "I hate romans because they enslaved my ancestors."

        I understand why Hawaiians dont like tourists, and mainlanders--but guess what, back when America was imperialistic we took you over... sorry, but it happened and as shitty as imperialism is, its apart of human history and culture, and I'd bet that it wasn't America than it'd have been another country.

        • Hmmm, Interesting how you believe its something of the past? Do you believe you would have the same opinion in America and being American If your entired being and culture was outlawed? Today being German isn't on the edge of extinction. There isn't only .01% of the population who speek German. Your way of life is comparable to any European/Western way of life. However, traditional way of life for Hawaiians or just locals are almost gone. Does might is right work if it only benefits?

      • what you're saying is valid and fair.
        But I do wonder, aren't you being hypocritical?

        I look totally and completely Caucasian; blonde hair and blue eyes. Yet, my mother was born and raised in Havana. They were refugees that immigrated to the USA about 40 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I'm a gringa, for better or worse; but how is it right to be doling out responsibility to "white people" as a whole for these crimes? Realistically, the vast majority have nothing to do with it.
        Ive been called "cracker", despite the fact that I'm a first generation American, because of the way I look.
        It's nothing compared to what many have to deal with, and I'm certainly no victim of anything real or noteworthy. But my point is: isn't the whole point of combating racism to hold individuals accountable solely for their actions, not for what they look like?
        Not understanding history is ignorant, you're absolutely right.

        But blaming anyone with pale skin for what happened is, I'm sorry, but bigoted. And incredibly, inexcusably ignorant. "Hating white people" is exactly what is sounds like - blind, unfocused, ignorant hate. And it makes you no better than the people who unjustly harmed your ancestors.

      • Japan was bent on WORLD DOMINATION. That was their plan. Hawaii is part of the world so Hawaii would have been overrun without American soldiers, and firepower. The Japanese would have overwhelmed the islands with actual foot soldiers brought over on carriers, and commenced indiscriminately slaughtering your people. ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE. You wouldn't even be here now. You are extremely naïve about what happened during WW2, and how vulnerable Hawaii is. Hawaii is in my opinion, the most beautiful land and sea in the world. I still think the Hawaiian people are beautiful, and the outside, and many are still beautiful inside. Hawaii's beauty is no secret, and the islands would not be left alone without a powerful military, which you can't provide on your own. You would have to pick a partner. If not the U.S. then who? I'm not saying these things to make you feel powerless; I really just want you to get your mind off of the very narrow track that it is on, and think of the big picture, past, present, and the future of a potential island nation. I think it's a little like a troubled teenager hating his/her parents rules, or conditions, that they just want to break free without realizing the predators that will be waiting for them in the world without the protection of people who care about them.

    • So your argument is ''Some one else would have did, so why not us?'' That's like a murderer saying ''people are killing each other all the time, so why do you pick on me?!" That's exactly the mentality of white supremacists scums.

      • I don't think the U.S. government murders the Hawaiian people. Who would you choose? You really only have 3 choices. The U.S. China, and Russia. Chinese business men would buy up all of the land, and quickly overdevelop. The Russians would do the same, and every island would be swarming with sailors, and nuclear weapons would be stockpiled and ready for launch in abundance. Natives, and locals would have no rights, and would probably be shipped off the islands altogether, and any protesters would be imprisoned or shot. The U.S. affords quite a few freedoms.

    • Great comment! It's true..the native people have no right to complain about any past grievances. They were the losers. History is written by the winners. If they had been more capable, more advanced, and more prepared, they could have retained their autonomy. But they were weak and soft, and they got steamrolled. Now their state exists for our pleasure. They'll just have to accept it.

      • Haha omg your comments are just too funny because of all the ignorance just sitting like a pile of shit here. Obviously you need to learn your history. Let's break apart your silly little argument.
        1. "more capable" This is laughable. Over 90% of Hawaiians at the time was more literate in BOTH Hawaiian and English than the mainland.
        2. "more advanced" Iolani palace and quite a few homes had working electricity BEFORE the White House. So I think you have it backwards there Matt. We were thriving as a country and little ole America was jealous.
        3. We were not 'weak and soft.' Yes, an overall peaceful place at the time and Americans were so called allies. Did our Queen think that America would have the audacity to threaten her and all of her people to get there way? No because that just isn't Hawaiian mentality. So no we don't "just have to accept it." We have the right to fight for what we believe in just as you do. Learn some respect and humility and stay out of our state if you have that attitude.

        • Who brought electricity to your state? Answer: Thomas Edison.
          Wouldn't a native Hawaiian purist that longs for the return of the old way of life prefer not to have electricity anyway? It did make things much different, much more worldly, and American.

  39. I recently visited Maui - first time in Hawaii. My family wanted to go to a Luau. It was really good, supposedly one of the best and more authentic ones. They talked about how the white men came and screwed everything up - though they were nice about it since many people in the audience were white. But I felt guilty after it was over, even though I personally had no real reason to. I am, however, associated with the people who disrespected the culture simply by being white, and American, at least that's how I feel.

    When I walked out, one of the performers was standing on the sidewalk greeting guests as they left. I told him how much I loved the island and said, "I'd love to come back if you'll have me". Something like that. He replied, "You are always welcome here"

    I wasn't sure he meant it though - I mean that is part of the show, in a sense. He was very nice and seemed sincere. EVERYONE was very kind to me. But that's just how I felt. I wanted to tell him that if I do return I will respect where I am and I understand that I am an outsider.

    Like, I want to go back because I loved the island - I have no desire to bring any crap attitudes with me. I would rather be a part of their culture, at least as much as any white man/outsider can be. I have no culture to be proud of and I felt jealous(?) in a way that they have such a great one :)

    I did some more research on the culture and history when I returned home. I really fell in love with the island, the music, the more relaxed (at least as I perceived it) way of life, and the people I met were really nice to me.

    I have nothing but respect for everyone and everything I saw there. I thought, what a great place to live - literally. But I know I am an outsider. It's a disgrace how some people - tourists - behave. No matter how courteous I was, I couldn't help feeling like I was an intruder - not because of the way I was treated at all, but simply for being there.

    I would love to spend more time there. I may even want to live there. But I am very cautious, or aware, of the fact that this is not my real home and I may never be fully accepted. And I'm okay with that, in a sense, because I would do my best to be respectful of everything and everyone there. It would not be an effort, as I feel like I was born to be in such a culture, rather than the crazy mainland. I've never fit in with that. I WANT to fit into THEIR culture as much as possible.

    I am going to visit again soon and spend more time there. I'm not a typical tourist - I hate resorts, don't need all the tours. In fact I want to learn more about what it's really like in Hawaii. You don't learn that in the tourist areas.

    Not sure what my point is with this comment. I really loved it there. I went to Maui to enjoy and experience Maui, not to bring my societies B.S. to them.

    Thanks to everyone else who commented.

    • Omg this is one of the most respectful responses ive seen from a white person about anything, i appreciate you and your appreciation rather than appropriation of my culture ❤

    • Wow, of all the comments I have seen here. I feel most in sync with your feelings. I have never been there and have always heard how beautiful a place it is. I hate how "being white" is such a crime now a days. I really wish everyone thought the way "we feel", I wish we could all respect each other's past this way.
      Thank you for putting your feelings here so I can see I am not alone.
      P.S. though I was not "part" of what happened in the past I do feel sorry that it happened, and I am sorry that the world may have turned out this way because of it. I can only hope that one day ppl will look past our ancestors mistakes and wrong doings and see each of us as individuals just as so many don't want to feel like they are judged by the color of their skin. Both are things we can not change.

      • Sorry, but you can not "nice" your way into being accepted on the islands unless you are giving out hundred dollar bills. I hope that we can stop being hated for being white someday too.

    • I only read about half of your comment, but I loved it. You are the type of person we as locals would lo e to teach about all things Hawaii!! If you do ever come back visit Kauai instead!! It is just as friendly and beautiful!!

    • I feel the exact same way Mike. I have been to Maui twice and rented a house and car, and just kinda lived the experience instead of doing all of the touristy stuff. My family and I are very curious and love learning about different cultures, and the Hawaiian culture is one of the most beautiful one's I have experienced. We never felt like the natives or locals had a problem with us, everyone was incredibly kind, I think in part because I would ask every native or local we dealt with their own personal story, and tried to learn as much as I could about them and their culture. I would hate for anyone to not want me to visit their beautiful home because they felt disrespected. I too, truly respect and love the Hawaiian way of life, it is beautiful.

    • They don't want you to live there. You can be the nicest, most respectful person in the world, but they are definitely anti immigrant. Enjoy your vacations, but they do not want you to stay.

  40. Thanks for the article! Kind of funny, kind of real, kind of informative to those wishing to come here. Not all of that is relative though, there are a lot of great people here with aloha. Don't blame the locals, blame yourself for not being able to fit in with the locals. And if you don't like it here, by all means go home or stay away. We won't miss you, I promise!

    • I would be happy to leave trash can of an island, I absolutely despise each and every local here.

  41. Well........ reading this explains a lot! My "haole" daughter gets treated like crap by the father of her boyfriend simply because she's glowing white.
    and we're here, on the mainland, in the middle of other "haole" people - where this piece of garbage moved to so he could make big $$$$$ off the white people he hates.
    That's just rich!

  42. Growing up in Hawaii and being of Hawaiian decent we feel stolen from, cheated, mocked and abused.

    The U.Saturday government imprisoned our Queen, stole our lands, raped our culture and we are just told to take it because it was for the best.

    Maybe the beast for the U.S., it was never right for Hawaiians or Hawaii in anyway!!!

    We did not asked to be annexed, we did not want to be U.S. citizens by any means. The Government took over hawaii and did everything they could for greed. So some white men didn't need to pay tariffs on sugar cane, pineapples and other things.

    Then the Goverment acted as they they did the hawaiians a favor, you did not.

    When did stealing ever become right?? When did being Hawaiian or part Hawaiian become wrong??

    When people ask me if I am an American, I say "hell no" I am part Hawaiian and a US citizen.

    My father was white or "Haole", but he married a Hawaiian woman, he respected Hawaii and the culture. His family moved from Iowa in 1947.

    My Hawaiian family accepted him cause he was married to a Hawaiian woman, he respected our culture and lived hawaii. He had more lover and respect for Hawaii and our culture then anyone I ever met that was a Haole!!!

    My dad was "a local boy", He loved Hawaiian food, hawaiian music and his part Hawaiian children.

    He went to Roosevelt High school, swam at queens beach, and loved Hawaii as his home. He treated Hawaiian culture as a way of life and did so till the day he left this earth.

    He was disgusted the way hawaii was over ran from progress of the white man, it was not progress but degradation of a culture he loved so much!!!

    He respected the land, the volcanos and his Hawaiian O'hana.

    But, he still did not like many haoles because of the way they acted, they poisoned the land, treated hawaiians like garbage.

    The U.S. came into our islands and told us that our culture was wrong. This is why so many Hawaiians do NOT like haoles!!!

    When I went home in 2014 to O'ahu I was disgusted and heart broken by what my home had become!!! I weep for my home that is no longer what I remembered and loved so much!!

    We did not want to be part of America, we don't ever see us as Americans because we ARE NOT AMERICANS!!!! WE ARE HAWAIIANS!!!

    As a part Hawaiian I want my land back, I want my culture back, I want my HAWAII back!!!

    I look white, but honestly I cannot stand most white people. You all oh and ah when I say I am from hawaii and i am partyou all looked at me with confusion cause my skin is white. But I am and always will be Kanaka Maoli, my home was stolen and raped for profit. My culture was raped for greed!!!

    When I went home and couldn't even walk down the streets with out a cop stopping me, or swim at the beach I grew up on since I was born cause of pollution or enjoy the being back home cause it was so ugly that's when I knew my hawaii is not the same hawaii I loved as a child.

    When did being Hawaiian become part of the native American Indians of the mainland??

    We are hawaiians, we are our own people and we want our home back. This is why we say "Haole GO HOME!"

    Don't give your children Hawaiian names if your not part Hawaiian, that is a huge insult!!!

    Don't wear Hawaiian jewelry cause you vista's, your just stealing more of our culture by doing that!!!

    Don't try to speak pidgin cause you want to "fit in"!! It is ingrained in our culture when hawaii was stolen, now you try to steal more of when we have come up with!! Leave our names, our pidgin, and our jewelry ALONE!!!

    We did not ask for this, nor did we want it. It was forced on us and now we are demanding it back!!!

    White men thought they knew better, but they saw dollar signs and we saw saw out culture slip away one generation at a time.

    We didn't get a say then, but we have since found our voice, we will not be silenced any longer.

    We didn't need religion, we didn't need to be made civilized, we didn't need the white man telling us how to live.

    They took it upon themselves to change us and look what it has become. Nothing but Shit!!

    • As a white man....So if I move to Hawaii, love Hawaii for everything it has and doesn't have, honor all of the local traditions...Marry a Hawaiian lady, Make half Hawaiian babies then as a white man I am acceptable like your father??? You are so full of crap. If you are half Hawaiian then you are half Haole. So you should leave Hawaii too! You aren't going to get Hawaii back just by chanting "Haole Go Home." Hawaii is forever changed and is not going back to indigenous times. I am disgusted by racists like you.
      Your Hawaiian ancestors sailed East and found the islands. Europeans sailed West and discovered the islands as well. What would the ancestral Hawaiians done if they reached the islands and they were already occupied? Slaughtered the natives or get slaughtered themselves. THAT is the the way homo sapiens work. Get used to it and become adaptable or go extinct.
      The King of Hawaii sold the island of Niʻihau to a Haole named Robinson for $10,000 in gold. To this day it is still owned by a Haole family. Robinson was a Haole family invited to stay by the King. Seems even the native Hawaiians can be bought as well.
      Haoles aren't going ANYWHERE. The more the mulato Hawaiians yell get out the more we will dig our heels in.

      • I am not From Hawaii or the United States. I am from Brazil so my opinion is unbiased. White people have destroyed the culture of Hawaii and took the islands by force. White people have been doing this for centuries. The United States was taken by force from the native Americans who are truly the only Americans in this country. The US should return Hawaii to its native people and give them their rightfully deserved monarchy back. The same should go for Puerto Rico. The racist white people should have stayed in Europe where they belong. This country will never be blessed by God because it was taken by force and murder. The same happened in Hawaii when white people showed up and started war with the natives. When will this stop. Maybe the US will take over Tonga or Tahiti next. I think it is ridiculous and one day hopefully congress will give Hawaii its independence. The ignorant white prick that made the comment that the natives of Hawaii can be bought should really study up on Hawaii history. The only reasons native Hawaiins sold their land and allowed them to take over is because they did not want to see their people die any longer.

        • Thank you Marc justice, very nicely said.

          I applaud you for your insight and kindness.

          By the way, love the comment about the prick!!

          (Priceless) ;)

        • Aren't there a lot of Portuguese (aka Europeans) in Brasil? Maybe all those white Portagues should have stayed in Europe and leave the native South Americans alone.
          Not all white people are racist.
          Stop teaching the new generation to hate.

        • Marc,
          From whence do you originate? Spaniards who raped and pillaged every country they set foot on?? Are you related to a drug lord? What gives you the right to throw a stone?!
          Guilty by race, not by action,
          Harry

        • This is in response to Harry and B, whoever they may be. I will assume that both of you are white. This country would have been better off ran by the native Americans. Donald Trump running for president is a joke. I find it hilarious that white people continue to think they are superior to all races. This new generation has no clue the hell the native Americans and the native Hawaiians went thru. The Spanish were saints compared to what the trash from Europe did to this Country. Lesser minds will continue to think its ok and try to tell me not all white people are racist. I agree not all white people are racists, just the majority. Why such a disparity, the official federal of bureau prison website states that a percentage of inmates are black, however the inmate staff are labeled African Americans. This country states in God we trust, lol !!!That is the furthest from truth. More than half of congress is derived from old racist white men. Someone will arise and make a difference, oh wait I forgot, every revolutionary that has spoken out on racial equality has been assassinated, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X, and the list goes on and on. When we get rid of all the white racists members of congress who are old white men, that think we still live in the 50's and believe that white people are superior, then and only then will we grow as a country. Please when making comments make sure you think about how you respond. The United States has to make a change as white people are going to be the minority in this country within the next 20 years. Central government will not exist for much longer. We must all respect and treat each other the same regardless of race and color. A concept that is very simple, yet so hard for people to accept and understand.

      • Actually I am a quarter Haole if we're gonna get technical!!

        Your the kind of person we have kill haole day for!! NO RESPECT!!!

        So high Maka Maka, so "your better cause your white". I guarantee you go to hawaii, try to speak pidgin, try to fit in, how about you go to Nanakuli or Waianae, or even Waimanalo and you will get your killed.

        Yes, the Robinson family owns it NOW!!

        But it was bought by the Sinclair family in 1860's, they were sold the island by King Kamehameha V for 10,000 in gold. The island has no electricity, no modern things we are accustomed to.

        They have ha'aha'a, you Sir have none!!! All I can say to you is important dare you to go to those place where I grew up, you gonna get lickins and false cracked. You will be all keke'e and manu kina. Au'e Kane hao'ole, Au'e!!

        My mother is on the big island Hawaiian council, she speaks fluent hawaiian. We just want some of what was stolen from us, from our ancestors!!

        You Fricken white people come in, take what you want and act like it is your right to do it!! You have no respect, no caring, no nothing.

        No wonder so many white people like you end up off of ka'ena point.

        When more visitors can show humility and decency, then we might start thinking and feeling different!! But when it cost 8.00 for milk and Hawaiian people are forced off their land that generations have lived on to make room for more fucking condo''s for assholes like you to visit and crap on the local people, that is wrong. You can insult me all you want. But the truth is there and cannot be changed at all.

        Plus we are the only language in the world without swear words. We learned them from the white man, so shove it!!

        Aloha oe' wa'a wa'a kane

        • You sound so violent! Your email does not sound like someone passionate about PART of your culture you sound downright violent! Scary.....by the way....you are a 'ficken' Haole! Abet 1/4.... You are still a 'fricken' Haole! Your father was a GREAT Haole because YOU say he was......really. You have blinders and live by double standards! Your DNA is what it is, you cannot chose which part appeals to you more and speak violence against the other!
          I am 3/4 Hawaiian and we were taught love and respect of ALL cultures regardless of their poor behavior. You cannot lump an entire race of any ethnicity into your violent tirade.
          So I say to all ethnicities, I am Hawaiian and most of us have great love an respect for all people.

        • I was born in America and both my parents were adopted. I agree on most of the points you are saying I don't agree that much with America my self. But let's say I want to Hawaii would you not like me there? Trust me I would disrespect it either. It looks like a lovely place and culture to live in.

        • Wow...cuz violence is never the answer. Americans may have taken our country, doesnt mean we fight back with violence. Things need to change, haole arent all bad. Hell I know Haole whose familes been here for 90 years and natives still treat them bad. I duno bro, I never felt violence is the answer. I dont remember ever been picked on by haole. Always seems like we think we are better. Kill haole day needs to end. Aloha needs to be taken seriously, you think our great grandparents would look back and approve of this attitude?

        • This is a response to Lauri. I understand your anger, I really do. What people have done to Hawaii is terrible, the fact Hawaiians can't live the way they want to, the values they hold dear is a huge problem. However I see something worse here, I see a heart struck with bitterness and hate. You have every right to be angry but please try to remember, we are all people on this earth. Not every foreigner is going to treat your beautiful Hawaii terrible, or not act respectfully to you or the Hawaiian way of life. What I've learned in life is that people are people, you have good ones (like your father), bad ones and everything in between. It's best to be mindful but judge people on what they do, how they act. I'm only saying this to you because I see a heart that is so overtaken by bitterness and hate that it might just lead you to ruin. You might shut yourself out of relationships that could be the best of your life or even let this hate consume your life so you'll get no real rest. These words come with love friend, I hope you get the Hawaii you remember back but for now try not to let this anger ruin you.

        • Lauri - reading your tirade literally made me laugh - it was quite humorous. Someone challenges your argument - forces you to think and justify your opinion - and your calm facade immediately breaks down and you go all uber-violent - throwing down just about every Hawaiian phrase and haole stereotype known to man. I felt like I was reading a rant some 10 year old wrote in their diary.

          But...I think I know the source of all that anger and violence that lurks just below the surface. It's self-loathing. You despise that haole blood that courses through your veins. You want so badly to be considered a "real" Hawaiian and be accepted by your family/friends/peers, but your pale exterior gives your lineage away - and that infuriates you. You go to great lengths to explain how your dad respected the 'aina and such, and it does sound like he may have been a good guy - but he was not a "local boy" as you describe him - he was a haole. In fact, he wasn't even a "local haole" - which, in my opinion, necessitates that you were actually born in Hawaii - not Iowa. He was simply another haole that moved to Hawaii - like all the others that you say you hate so much.

          So, that would make you a hapa-haole, or, only half-Hawaiian. I bet your pale skin made you the point of jokes and ridicule when you were young and that hurt you terribly. You eventually grew to hate everything haole and possibly even secretly resented your dad for putting you in that situation. So, you consciously (or unconsciously) shunned your haole ancestry - choosing to focus solely on the Hawaiian half of you - and putting that forth as your "true" identity to demonstrate to others that you were indeed a "legit" local girl.

          I get it. I grew up in Hawaii and knew quite a few people like you. It's sad. But - don't blame yourself - it's not your fault. You are the product/victim of a racist society - one that ingrains their youth with a profound anti-haole sentiment - and has done so for generations. You grew up racist without even knowing it - and it sounds like you don't even realize it to this day. That doesn't necessarily make you a bad person - you adopted a survival mechanism to assist you with fitting in with the masses. I've seen it many times over - and you can still change and not live such an angry life.

          I would suggest letting go of the anger and opening your mind to the possibility that not all white people are your enemy. Sure, there are some a-holes, but that can of course be said of all skin colors. It's not fair (or intelligent) to pre-judge someone by their skin color or the perceived atrocities of their distant ancestors. I first left Hawaii in my early 20s to go to school on the mainland and was quite surprised to find that my own biases were false - most of the white people I met were warm, friendly, welcoming, and gasp...intelligent. I learned to let go of my prejudices and you can too. Life's too short to hate. I wish you luck in your growth.

        • Wow. I agree with you and Marc. I'm Conscious Black Woman from a family who were slaves, part of Tuskegee experiment, jim crow south w/ no electricity & out houses, robbed culture/names/religion, still 3/5th of a person in America, grandma was share cropper/in house help, part of Creek Native Tribe, still enduring mental slavery via religion/learning disability programs in public school system here etc. I want to move to Waianae to raise my children & teach them culture, and grow my own food organically and enjoy the sun and go to the afterlife. But my question is to you, do brothers and sisters accept people of that type of background?

      • You don't get it. It's not because your white that people hate you. It's your behavior, the way you think, your values, your culture. Haole isn't white but foreign.

        Your clueless, when the people of Hawaii are talking about living a way of life they are not talking about going back to live in huts. They are talking about a Life of Aloha and being laidback, where local values of Ohana, Community, Culture was important. Not wealth first, concrete malls and I before we.

        Adapt? Unfortunately you guys are the least adaptable people. That's why you practice gentrification, forced assimilation on other cultures and sameness.

        Your also ignoring a ton of Hawaii History that also explains a lot of the anger. The masse trial, sand island and the internment camps during WW2, the plantation years and the overthrow of the Hawaiian kingdom are just a few examples and are a few examples of the behavior, ideology, values , culture that cause trouble.

      • I'm here right now, I'll be back....I'm gonna stay two or three years and see from there. I sport an American flag on one arm and don't tread on me the other arm. Just saying I'm peaceful but let someone talk smack about me being white. Maybe it won't happen, I hope no one is that stupid. I'm not looking for any aggression....it's why I'm moving here but if it finds me I'm gonna put an end to this "go home shit" on the spot. And if I have too, I'll do it until I'm known as "the guy that's cool....don't fuck with him." I'm humble but also assertive. I've felt like there have been times that locals were sizing me up but felt it wasn't worth the trouble. I get along with all walks of life if you are a human and don't press me to believe what you do. I won't ever press what I believe on you.....I'm a sheep dog if you mistake me for the sheep or come at me like a wolf I will react. I'm the one you didn't expect, I'm the one that ruins your expectations that your had more power than you do. And if I get really pissed of by the locals I'm gonna start buying up land. Bottom line live and let live. America is never letting this place go as long as war is profitable. You so called locals need to chill out with all this you took my land stuff. And why do eggs cost so much here with all the chickens walking around? Hehe

    • Yea because tourists are the ones who took the land from Hawaiians... They are also responsible for enslaving blacks and bringing them to America. Not all white people agree with what happened in the past and know it was wrong. How can you blame someone in the present for what happened in the past when they had nothing to do with it?

      • Because the behavior hasn't changed Greg. Look up manifest destiny and find out it's definition and how it worked on the move west. Today as a culture in America we have replaced God or religion with technology, progress and wealth. Now look at issues like TMT on Mauna Kea or Standing Rock and we see that the past just repeats itself. You can even say that the cultural sterilization of gentrification is also part of the past. We see thru out American History that yes a lot of people didn't oppress minority Americans but at the same time not a lot stood up to set things right either when bad things happened to minority Americans in our history.

    • Lauri,

      thank you for your comment. I am not sure what race I am but I look white so that's what most people assume I am and that's what I say I am. I lived in Hawaii (my mom rented) and went to school and learned Hawaiian history from the Hawaiian point of view. I love the islands and the people I met there and carry them in my heart forever. I have family there who I love and who taught me the importance of preserving Hawaiian tradition.

      I just want to say I am so sorry for what white people and other races have done to Hawaii. All you white people saying to get over it are being insensitive and aren't truly trying to see history from another culture's point of view. We all carry biases with us even if we don't recognize them. Dig a little deeper and really ask yourself if you understand enough of the other side to make a comment. I wish I knew what I could do to change or repair the damage that has done but I'm just one person. So all I can do is offer my sincere apology and try to continue making a difference in the world and protecting our precious environment.

      • You don't need to apologize for being white.

  43. How do natives feel about teachers coming to Hawai'i and living there to teach? I was there 2 ago and heard there was a teaching shortage (which we have here also). But I felt bad bc we at least get paid better (still not as we should) but better than Hawai'i. So I felt a little compelled to someday come back to teach ....but then I figure, "If they pay teachers better in Hawai'i, wouldn't the locals that can teach be more inclined to apply for the jobs? Then they wouldn't need outside people." Or is the shortage so bad that they require locals AND outsiders to fill the positions (regardless of wages)?

    *I heard it on the news while there and read it in a National Geographic (the article was about how a teacher couldn't afford to live there with his family so they left Hawai'i).

  44. I am Haole. I have been to the Hawaiian islands 7 times. I am awed at the beauty, the water and the native culture. I love the food, the wind and the waves. Keep fighting, keep limiting access, keep preserving. I too live in a gorgeous place: the Rocky Mnts of Colorado. You show me your secret beaches and how to surf and I take you to my secret powder fields...respect and sharing is what we all need heal this terrible wound.

    • I highly doubt that any of us Native Hawaiians would ever show a haole one of our secret beaches. Our beaches are already flooded with tourists. As soon as we start showing people our secret spots... more and more people will go there and the county will just make it a public area or something like that for everybody. Some of our spots are very sacred and it just sickens me when people say things like "show me your secret beaches" like uhm NO. There's reasons us Kanaka keep it SECRET. Well, at least for as long as we can. We raise our keiki, teaching them all the different places of our island (I live on the Big Island) and we teach them which ones they shouldn't talk too much about. And as they get older they understand why we have to keep it this way. Just trying to preserve the real beautiful spots for the people that the land actually belongs to.

      • Mutual stewardship of all lands is how harmony is achieved. So if you don't want the exchange that I suggested then I will plan to move there peamemtly and find the hidden gems myself. Haha

        • Haha? Listen carefully, Doctor: they don't want you there. You move there and they will harass you until you leave. Your smug condescension will also likely earn you a big old beat-down and further poison the well for haole tourists who follow you. Just leave them alone, the world will deal with them in the fullness of time.

      • Unbelievable! The land does not belong to you. It was here long before Polynesians emigrated from Asia and will be here long after we are ALL dust. In the grand scheme of time we are all but fleeting visitors. So as I tell my children, it is right to share.

      • Really? You moderated my post? The post that stated that the land belongs to nobody and that although the Polynesians have been in Hawaii for 1000 yrs, it is but a drop in the ocean of time? The land was here long before Polynesian settlement and will be here long after we ALL end. Ownership is such an egotistical sentiment. We OWN nothing! We are but mere custodians for the time wherein we are set. Nothing more, nothing less. Custodians by their very position engender respect, but I swear you guys/ girls are doing a lot to destroy that sentiment. As a foreigner who has spent the last 20 yrs watching the rise of this nationalism from the deck of a surfboard, it smacks of the overall racial segregation that is sweeping the US as a whole. All I can say is, get it together people, for while you have the ability to lament and dissent openly now, there are forces at work in this world, that if they should ever win will ensure that any such dissension and criticism is dealt with harsh punishment, even death. Be thankful for the rules we live under. It could be a whole lot worse.

  45. When I visited I was bothered by the whole "pay Hawaiians to demean themselves" thing and tried to avoid the hotel-luau bullshit. I was more bothered by the hostility and threats. I won't be back and I wouldn't EVER consider buying property there (what a stupid thing to do). The locals will say "good riddance" and yes, you're right. To you I'm a stinking haole and have no business at all on your beautiful islands, so I think we're in agreement on the problem and the solution.

    If I could, I would support any movement to have Hawaii ejected from the United States (not sure how to work out the whole strategic military thing, though). The REAL locals don't want to be a part of the country (ask Haunani-Kay Trask) and I'm sure that the industry and economy there would flourish without white-skinned devils and their exploitation. Or not.

    Either way, good luck with all that. Keep encouraging your children to hate other people, especially the ones who bring money into your economy. The blinding speed of the changing and integrating world will certainly give you a special pass so you can retain your traditions and retain control of your territories. Your economy will muddle along as it has, a few Whites (and probably Japanese, Blacks, Hispanics, most anybody else) will be beat up from time to time but the local judges will prevent any real legal retribution from punishing the offenders because of the need for historical justice and the fact that native Hawaiians have every reason to hate us.

  46. Let it go we cannot change the islands & buildings and such , just have to enjoy the life we live with our ohana...
    If u dont like it change your lifestyle we all dont like the new condos and the rail but we gotta deal with it cause nothing going change

    Move on dont dwell on things we cannot change , ho da miserable you guys must be, shame on you

  47. I think the main problem lies with our government. I was born in the Territory of Hawaii, before we became a state. The government let all the buying get out of hand. Waikiki has lost its beauty and now looks like any mainland state and/or foreign country. It's a shame that we have lost the beauty of our aina. Sure we still have beauty on the country side, but they are buying all that land too. Our children can't even afford to buy land and homes here because of all the huge houses that are built and raising the cost of taxes and land. It is what it is however, I wish it would stop. We can't take anymore, we need to start taking care of our own and not the transients that are relocating here. Enough said.

  48. I LOVE THIS POST!! GOT ME LMFAO???????????

  49. It seems nobody dares to speak up. Where and who are all those people with their heads in the sand.
    I am standing with the State and the US Government. Those people could have spoken up in 1959 whe they voted to become part of the USA. It is done and it is final. We are the USA and proud of it.

    • Um julie ...obviously they couldnt yeah?

    • I guess Julie needs some love before she can respect or live with Aloha.

    • By the way i dont think the hawaiian people voted to be apart of the usa they were most likely forced to ...

    • dude are you for real hawaii was taken by force like ?!? its called imperialism. Are you that uneducated?

      • In March 1959, Congress passed the Hawaii Admission Act, which U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed into law.[88] The act excluded Palmyra Atoll from statehood; it had been part of the Kingdom and Territory of Hawaii. On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaii to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it.[89] The referendum asked voters to choose between accepting the Act and remaining a U.S. territory. The United Nations' Special Committee on Decolonization later removed Hawaii from its list of self-governing territories.

        Looks like your the uneducated one!

        • Good one. Im half Mexican, half German and all American. Its sad that so many people across the world are hateful to the core. Live, Love, Laugh. Stop hating each other, the past is in the past where it belongs.

    • Oh Julie they tried. Did you know that Hawaiian Citizens had to sue the territory of Hawaii and it's government to stop using public tax money in supporting a yes vote in statehood. Did you know that a good portion of voters were military and American citizens who didn't have residency. Did you know that majority of the Native Hawaiian population that voted for statehood voted against it? Yes but you wont learn this truth from text books today.

  50. What is not said here is that small islands simply cannot sustain the influx of tourists and in-migrants. Our infrastructure can't accommodate it, our economy can't sustain it, our ecosystems are too fragile for it. The use of scarce, precious land for offshore investors rather than agriculture makes us vulnerable and unable to provide for our local population's needs. We have an insanely high degree of homelessness--disproportionately Hawaiian--and no coherent strategy to address it. In fact homeless people are treated harshly while construction proceeds on luxury condos. A stupidly managed rail project will damage our children's future for decades to come. We need alternative economic development, not tourism. Hawai`i is not a zoo to which people should come to stare at the natives. It's a beautiful, breathing culture, and if you respect it you will experience something remarkable. This thread talks about who blames whom for what, but not about what can be done to protect these islands and how will that happen. Our government is either unmotivated or incompetent to solve the problems. However, at least we are not arguing about bathrooms. (Oh wait-- yes we are. Homeless people have few options for this human need, but then are reviled for uncleanliness. If you are a tourist, know that they get pushed around so you will not have to see them.) In short-- the situation is COMPLICATED. Please approach with respect or go elsewhere.

    • Holly said: "Our infrastructure can't accommodate it, our economy can't sustain it"
      Sounds reasonable to me, and I agree with that. YET, when someone in the states says the same about an influx of 50 million South Americans and Mexicans affecting the economy, ALL THE SUDDEN IT'S RACIST.

      LOL, it's just comical the hypocrisy of every one of you.

  51. . wow . that was totally shocking . as I am sure many would agree . whoever wrote that . . and not entirely true at all . some of it is true . . especially about the high costs of living . . I really resonate with the prejudice part mostly because I have absolutely experienced it almost every day all over the island at different places depending upon who I encounter especially with people under 40 the younger generation who seem to have lost or have not been taught to have respect for others . . . . it's absolutely true and I have never in my life been on the receiving end of prejudice so when I moved to this island and began experiencing it . it has been completely stunning . . at first I was astonished . now it makes me upset . . why . . because it is wrong . . they don't even know me but a person is rude to me simply because my hair is platinum white and my skin is white/pink . . seriously . . it happens all the time . . and I'm not the only one . . I've spoken to other "white" girls and they have the same experience . . I do believe it is different for men . . but not entirely sure . .

    And there are some other things on this post which are true . . especially about the housing and food costs being in the stratosphere . . and the fact that many people don't seem to understand just how damaging to the marine life and ocean the sunscreen products are . . totally oblivious they are . . but no one could blame someone for not knowing . . ignorance is bliss . . they say . . . Yet it is true that tourist income help the local businesses . . but when I say that I am talking about shopping local for organic Maui farmers produce and food and local made crafts etc . . . . not the astronomical amount of money spent on hotels and rental cars . .

    But on this article . the rest . . totally out there . . a matter of radical opinion and especially depending upon who you're talking to . .

    We know most Hawaiians are not "pure" Hawaiian it is rare to meet one and most are actually an ethnic mix just like the rest of us with more Hawaiian than everything else . . many are more than half Hawaiian . . But it doesn't really matter how much or how little Hawaiian koko . the blood . the heritage . the genealogy . because if you have any Hawaiian in your family at all you are Hawaiian yes . . Yet many of us are Kanaka in our hearts . . I have actually had Hawaiians say this to me which was a great honour and I really appreciated it. .

    But you see . I lived in Europe where there is a much more formal protocol with the rules of engagement and a cordial manner of speaking with an understanding of what being polite truly means . . and not being so incredibly personal . . in many cultures to be so personal when you first meet someone is arrogant . . . but many people on Maui do not know this . . for me it is fundamental . . and I am stunned when someone behaves so inappropriately . . so it does really help when communicating with people of languages and cultures of all countries of the world . . plus . I resonate with Gaelic and Scotland Ireland Germany Austria The Netherlands Italy etc . . . . . so I do have many other cultural interests as well . . .

    Most Hawaiians do not hate tourists . . but believe me when I say there are some that do!

    Yet even so . most Hawaiian people are open hearted and loving and sweet and fair just as many of us are and kind to people who are of different cultures and ethnic backgrounds and spiritual beliefs . . .

    We all have our families our children and mothers and fathers and cousins and our creative interests just like everyone else . . in many ways we are all very similar . . the only differences really may be our background and history our culture and our ethnicity . .
    Others however are unfortunately incapable of seeing beyond their own outrage and disappointment for what has been taken from them and are totally radical and hostile and rude to ALL Caucasians especially and foreigners of all other ethnic groups as well because they are of the same or similar race as the ones who came here and caused so much trouble. And just because those people are not Hawaiian they are blaming literally everyone for what happened 100 years ago . and that is not fair . .

    There are people like this within my own family here now that I am married to a Hawaiian and it doesn't matter to them that I am married to a member of their family by marriage we are ohana but they hate me anyway . . . they totally ignore me as if I am invisible and the hostility is palpable . . . that's really hard to ignore when I go to family functions . . It doesn't matter how kind I am to them they do not reciprocate . .

    It really is insulting and has an impact on your life when you are constantly being subjected to such an unfair and unjustified prejudice when they don't even really know anything about you. They don't know who you are or where you come from or where you've been or what you love nor do they care . . they simply hate you because you're different . . . I will never get used to that . . .

    It's really had a tremendous impact on me and caused me to distance myself from them and stop trying to connect because they have zero interest in knowing me . . .

    I believe many of you who are my family on my side from my birth and my true friends will find this to be surprising . . I can tell you each and every time it happens it hurts my feelings and makes me angry at the same time . . because I am such a sweetheart and all my life most everyone I've met along my life's journeys has always loved me and welcomed me with open arms . . . happy to see me and to be with me and asks me questions . . has a genuine interest in knowing me and I in them . and they are interested in what I believe and to have philosophical discussions . to really listen . . the banter . the laughter . . the relationship is easy and comes naturally . . there is simply no one here who does that . . . it leaves me feeling very isolated . . .

    So . . anyway . back to this . .

    Most of us love these islands and her people . . we sympathize and empathize and we love the culture . we promote Hawaiian culture and language and history . we try and educate the world about the truth . we love the ocean and beaches and tropical climate and temperate rainforests and botanical gardens etc. . . that's why we're here . .

    We had nothing to do with what happened a century ago . and I for one along with many others are truly shocked and dismayed about the overthrow of the Hawaiian kingdom and how badly they treated the Queen and how inexpressibly rude they were to the people . . just as Hawaiians are . . It was outrageous . . and when you think about how religious beliefs were imposed and how much land was "acquired" and the control over how they dressed and how they suppressed their language and how they spoke . . . well . . It all was so incredibly audacious you can't help but be livid about it . . for many of us the knowledge of the truth about the Hawaiian Islands history and her people comes as a shocking revelation for these things are certainly not taught in American history books in schools on the mainland . .

    So when we travel here or move here and learn about what really happened it is devastating . . it's unreal . . and when someone is rude to you simply because you're "white" . . or "haole" you try and understand the source of the hurt and anger even when you find it to be unreasonable and it causes you to open your heart and try to be more forgiving . even while your first reaction is to defend yourself . . and it isn't always easy to be so giving . . sometimes you simply can't help but be offended . . then depending upon how deeply the offense is you know that person needs a reality check and a tune up and you call them on it . . Believe me . . many people mistake kindness for weakness and I have learned never to ever let anyone get away with disrespecting me . . .

    But even I too get upset when I see tourists trespassing and climbing over walls to pass a no trespassing sign to enter private property . or tossing their garbage and leaving their trash on the beaches . . or trekking out into Ahihikinau ignoring the signs to not walk off the trails . . invading sanctuaries . generally being loud and obnoxious . . as if they think the entire island is open for them to trample and explore without a thought or care or respect for the land and for people and private property . . . One can imagine how they would not tolerate someone climbing over their fences and entering their backyards . . yet they think they can do it here . . why do you think you see so many gates!! And I've never seen so many no trespassing signs in my life! . . It's to keep the tourists out! If there is an open road leading to your home you can count on someone eventually wandering about and exploring every open road and driving up to your door unless you have a gate.

    Then you meet really super nice people here on holiday and they love the islands as much as we do and they are dazzled by the beauty so you smile because it makes you happy to see the joy . they are kind and respectful and courteous and genuinely thrilled to be here and you breathe a sigh of relief to have met someone by chance who is so nice so you offer to use their camera to take a photo of them all together for their memories and you strike up a conversation discussing everything which interests you and quickly you both realise that you will be true friends for all your life . . that's the way it goes . . you just never know . .

    Considering there are literally millions of people on Maui every year from every country you can imagine . . most don't speak Hawaiian and some don't even speak or understand English . and all with their own idea of what is morally right and wrong and what is unacceptable and what is appropriate . . just think about it . . . in many ways there are no rules and those of us who live here just try and deal with it . .

    So . anyway . it's all very complicated . . here I am perusing photography and reading poetry and then reading this really set me off ja . . LOL . . my thoughts on this . . I could go on and on about it in much more detail but you get the point yes . .

    When you open this link and on this page scroll to the bottom to the comments section . . I like Tyler's reply too . .

    Hopefully what I have shared with you really helps put things in perspective . .

    Aloha

    Sharon Mau
    http://sharon-mau.pixels.com

    • Of course Hawaiian people are nice. That's not what this article is about. It's about American manifest destiny and disrespect for others. Why not go there and bring back some rocks to see how much this island lives tourists. It's always a different perspective from the Victor's side.
      Every tourist country lives on slave wages in poverty because Americans buy up all their housing and drive up the cost of living. In the Bahamas ! Everything! Food, clothing , cars, housing everything is 3 times mire iney than in the US. Now try live on $6 an hour. That's what my friends were being paid.
      Stupid thoughtless entitlement ^ is the reason they should hate you. The author was trying to fostor respect. This sick entitlement is what is wrong with the world. The United States IS the terrorist. But seeing howvirs your birthright you wouldn't want to see the truth.

      • it's WHITE PEOPLE who are the terrorists, not "the united states". WHITE PEOPLE/WESTERNERS have literally destroyed every place they've come in contact with! africa, the americas, etc. etc.

      • Americans are not allowed to own property or business in the Bahamas...just saying
        So try blaming it on someone else lol

  52. Well we all know who had a bad experience in Hawaii.

  53. Everyone has right to thier own opinion so lets not get hostile haha

    We all know about the overthrow of the thrown & its heartbreaking to say say the least, i am also not hawaiian, not all of us are but those of our ancestors that have lived here for for decades & born into the plantation & other businesses that was produced after the overthrow

    The hawaiian people like any other native human being adapted & adjusted to their new surroundings therefore we all shouldnt be complaining about the past we all wouldnt be here today, modernized . this doesnt mean we agree on the new rail development or developments in that matter. who knows what hawaii would of been like if history didnt happen, most of us would not even exsist nor our parent - great grandparents , everyone struggled... Thats the life of any human being .(us locals already struggle everyday to survive & take care of our family therefore we all know how hard it is). Its sad that the hawaiian culture is being lost but for some reason a lot of us locals still have the aloha that still is felt & shown in our everyday life here on the islands, i strongly agree on all of the preserved hawaiian heritage programs schools projects & hawaiian homes because without it hawaiians would be history too. Not 1 person i met likes the developments that happened since the modernization of the hawaiian islands but no one has stopped it (i know a lot of us tried) , these islands have been developing ever since.... But this is what the islands is today , we live with it & struggle through it or like some we have to leave our home behind & move elsewhere to take care of our families .

    So to all us local people who get defensive about the tourist that visit or move here, dont . they give us a lot of opportunities they are not here to stay or wreck our culture ... Modernization did that . not them... They give a lot of us jobs a whole lot of hawaii is our tourism.
    Im not even going to talk about the government we did the wrong thing for not voting or participating in the change thats in our favor. Its always going to be like that until we Participate & act.

    TO TOURIST: all we ask is to not liter & enjoy the culture and respect the land and animals , most importantly leave all your worries & troubles on the plane cause our island is too beautiful for stress & anger =) so enjoy it you paid a lot of money to vacation here

    • They do make the Cost of Living a lot higher though, we don't have enough houses and apartments for everyone so the few that are available are set at a ridiculous price, it's supply and demand and because of all the transplants moving here there isn't enough supply to meet demand, not everyone here has homestead that passed down for hundreds of years, think about the people who truly struggle to stay alive in this god forsaken place

      • The rental and housing prices are outrageous because Hawaii does not have a housing cap on rentals or houses like lots of the mainland does. Why should it cost more for locally grown food than mainland food ? Many people choose to live paycheck to paycheck because they are hung up on trying to impress their family and friends. We found we can live as cheap or as expensive as we want here it's each families decision . Kids don't need everything that they ask for but parents or aunties always manage to give in. Yes the islands are racist big time and it will take months to get a good job here because they wait for someone local to also come and apply. Forget trying to get into UH nursing program if your not local you have to audit the first few weeks doing all the homework then as locals drop out you can talk with the teachers and they will accept you! Oahu and Maui are the worst the other islands are Akamai and people very friendly.

  54. Let's all take a breather and remember this person who wrote the article probably has nothing to do with nor any say in Hawaii, the Hawaiian people or their feelings.

    Blood, born and raised, I am Hawaiian. I don't speak for any of my people, either.

    We don't hate tourists. We hate disrespectful tourists. Unfortunately, there are many and they go everywhere - not just Hawaii. I live in Pennsylvania now and I see just as many disrespectful tourists, here. When I travel, I remember that my culture was suppressed by "tourists". You can ask my 100% Hawaiian grandfather that doesn't speak Hawaiian why he doesn't.

    Tourists are not the problem. Society breeds the people who poison cultures and land. Nothing more. Hawaii will always have its sanctuaries because the people would die before giving it up. If you want to see the real Hawaii, find the people who embrace it more than the tourist traps that charge you money to see it.

    Feel free to ask how to pronounce our words. Use them when we've taught you how to properly say them and we'll love you for trying.

    Come see our beaches, but remember your tanning oils and lotions pollute water.

    Pick up after yourselves and we welcome you with open arms to come back, again.

    Stay in the hotels and eat at the restaurants, but please remember that the performers and employees feed their families with your tips. We share culture freely, but still need to take care of the little ones at home.

    If you choose to move here, just be respectful :)

    If you stick to a few points of advice, you'll be more than welcomed in Hawaii - you'll be respected. Don't listen to this author, they don't speak for us.

    • thank you for a sensible response. I lived there for 17 years on several islands, but mostly Maui. Agreed, It is people not the whole population who disrespect a place. Since Ihad blond hair I felt a LOT of discrimination living there. Unfairly I might add. Often the Hawaiians who were mean did not know me nor what I did. Nor who I was\. they judged without any knowledge. I lived there respectfully and with great heart for Hawai'i and its Culture and heritage. It made me offended and sad to this ten reason post. REALLY? I have friends and family living there. am I to never go there again? I believe your response was very good and I hope people take the time to read some of these posts. Thank you.

      • People are not themselves when they're angry and full of animosity and resentment of not being able to be themselves no one likes to be helplessly controlled

    • Thanks Tyler..I was hoping to one day visit there but that article had me 2nd guessing myself :\

    • Well said Tyler! I think it's funny, that no matter where you're from, or where you go the key thing to remember is 'respect'. I've read a lot of the things posted on this thread, and understand what the others are seeing. There's always going to be dislike, disrespect or worst, hate. I'm not Hawaiian, but I'm brown and I have lived in a couple different US States, and now reside in California, you know the same can be said for us living here...we get thousands of tourists and a majority of the other US States do not like us...we have a little bit of just about everything under the sun with people and places, but in a larger area. I believe that a large population of people living in a smaller space always tend to create friction, like a home with too many house guests...and in the end, we really need to remind ourselves to respect each other...

  55. The only part that I want to comment on is the fact that when I clicked on this article link on Facebook, a lovely message of "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /travel/usa/7-reasons-hawaii-hates-you/ on this server" pops up to greet me. I don't know if it's just me or you the author tried to block people from Hawaii from reading this article, but I find it hilarious that you would even try such a thing! It's 2016 dude and proxy servers aren't hard to come by! Pretty pitiful that you "might have" tried to block people with IP addresses in Hawaii from accessing your article. That just shows the ignorance of people nowadays. Won't even comment on your article because many Hawaii residents have done so already ;)

    • The explanation is less interesting I'm afraid. Facebook users as a whole were blocked because this site just couldn't handle the traffic. And it was more important to keep other areas running (there's some software being sold elsewhere on the site) rather than serve an article.

  56. Show me the treaty of annexation hawaii was never annexed from the united states you can not annex any thing out side of your borders look at the laws .we have a case going on as I speak in Switzerland war crimes on judges police land tax ofice state officials and so on there are like 40 something names on the list and your president thats right obama .you cant get to the international courts by just knocking on there its a long process they finally took it now they are reviewing the case on war crimes against American people.this is for real this is not a joke.america don't want any one to know about this ALOHA

    • This is why Hawaiians were mad. It was illegal to annex Hawai'i. They did it anyway.

    • There was never a treaty, that's why we're pissed off, don't be an asshole and say "show me the treaty" they put out Queen under house arrest while they stole our land

  57. Whoa, Braddahs (brothers)! Chill (Relax)! You know this article was written by a Haole (outsider), right?

    Here is one locals (a Hawai‘i born person) reply.

    1. Destroyed Gov't: True, but we make the most of the situation, and in recent years have used US laws and protocols to gain some autonomy, as have Native Americans and Inuits.

    2. Language: Not True, I don't expect to go somewhere in the continental US and be able to pronounce some Native American words/ place names. I'll try it, but I know I will butcher it. It's the effort that counts. We just usually have a good laugh about it and move on.

    3. Destroy Environment: We locals do it as well. We just ask you to tread lightly as possible and try to keep things as they are. We try to be as sensitive to the land as possible. Our lands are extensions of our family and we try to care for it.

    4. Breast, Really? The author must be a hard up male not getting any. Who wants to see sagging breast? Have you seen National Geographic?

    5. Mocking Culture:

    Fashion, Native Hawaiians never dress like that dude in the picture. If you want to dress like a douche, by all means. That's all you. Usually we just like T-shirts and board shorts. It's hot here!

    Culture, Native Hawaiians are fiercely proud of their culture. They almost lost it, but the resurgence of the knowledge and practices is strong. It is inspirational.

    6: Life is not a beach: Hell yeah it is hard. It is so expensive to live here. A gallon of milk is usually more than $5.00. Do we hate outsiders for it? No. There are certain things we accept. The price of living in paradise is one of them. Makes families stronger because nothing else matters more than family.

    7. Demeaning? NOT! As I said earlier, Native Hawaiians are very proud of their history and their culture. They love to share it with those that appreciate it. We still have luaus not too different from the hotel productions, and not as tacky. It is really up to the tourist to find the authentic Hawai'i. You won't find an authentic Hawai'i if you stay in Waikīkī or any of the tourist areas. It is best to venture out. You even help the local economy if you do venture out. Most hotels are owned by outsiders and most of that money leaves the State.

    We welcome you to the islands with open arms, just be respectful of our culture and land as you would expect others to be respectful of yours.

    Out of adversity, comes strength.

    Aloha!

    • Thank you my island relative. The Lakota are similar to the native Hawaiian, we believe in the spirit of Aloha, we call it 'Wolakota'. Our People face struggles similar to yours. Your homelands were desecrated, as were ours, take a look at America and try as we may, there ain't a damn thing we can do about it. Our language was nearly lost when Catholic churches decided they needed to 'kill the Indian, save the man'. They attempted to destroy our spirits by beating, raping and even murdering our ancestors who were helpless children left in their care. These are a few examples of similarities. Your homelands are beautiful. It's unfortunate your people don't have a way to control the # visitors. When I visited, I saw ppl from all over the world at Oah'u and it's a small island.

    • Well said...I totally agree with you Hawaiian Local!

    • Are you native Hawaiian? Or just born in Hawaii?

    • Mahalo!

    • True. So true. When I read the article and responses I was taken aback! I think some people have been treated badly and others are learning about Hawaiian history from places that unfortunately are not true. I'm part Hawaiian and have light skin. I could pass, and often people assume I might be Italian, or Mexican, or whatever. Haha

      Being raised partially here, partially in No. CA, and for many years being an Air Force brat and travelling with my parents, I'm used to it. Noone really knows. People have ideas about what we look like, and how we should be as a people.

      I'm older, I remember when my grandmother used to say to us young girls at family parties, "go dance with the haole man, make them feel comfortable." For many years now, if my family has a party at our local beach, tourists from all over come walking right into the party and hit the food line with a plate! We don't even know them, they are uninvited guests. My grandma would say to us (now older with family of our own) go say hello and dance with those people, make them feel welcome." I would say Gram! I don't care where you come from, what they are doing is rude!" She'd say nevermind that, they don't know, we are Hawaiian, if someone is hungry, we feed them."

      Two generations above mine, that was the sentiment towards outsiders, you give, you open your home, your family, you cater to them, feed them with your last piece of food. My mother's generation was a little different but not much.

      My grandmother was on her deathbed, literally, and our family came from far and wide to see her and pay their last respects. About evening time on the second day a lady showed up with two tourists. We didn't know who they were, but my mom assumed they knew my gram and we're there to pay their last respects. They went into grams room, and while my gram couldn't even speak, while she was dying, they said they had heard about her stories about Hawaii and wanted to meet her and hear her stories. My sister and I immediately ushured them out of the room. They were not even apologetic.

      My generation, is split. We are friendly and love people no matter who you are, with limits. If your rude, it expect us to serve you at our family functions if your uninvited, think again. If you behave badly, you probably get told off by someone. But we also forgive too. We work hard like our parents before us did.

      The next couple generations are more vocal, and I notice some families wanting their children to marry Hawaiian to preserve the Hawaiian bloodlines. Some not so friendly, but each if them have their own stories like I do.

      I usually treat people as they treat me, but I am older and sometimes it's not worth the energy to get upset. I like peace.

      I notice when people move to another place they take their ideas, and baggage with them. It happens here. Some ideas are good, some not so much. We don't want you to be us, I know I don't. I just want you to respect me and my home. There is a thing called "the vacation mentality" and often times people under the influence of this, do things they wouldn't do at home. "What the hell, I'm on vacation, what's down this road, or behind this wall?"

      That's how you get people laid out on the front lawn at the house you rented for your wedding at the beach. Or people standing right next to the preacher at your perfect beach wedding.

      So, let's be respectful where ever you go, here or elsewhere, and treat one another like you want to be treated. This goes for everyone, tourists, locals, etc. Kapu Aloha Hawai'i.

      Mahalo

      Thus

      • It really gives me a sick feeling to hear about people helping themselves at parties and taking advantage of your grandmother's good nature right up till the end of her life. There are some very rude Entitled people, and unfortunately they tend to be people that can afford to travel. Just so you know I was raised with manners, and to avoid inviting myself into my friends homes, and would usually make an excuse not to when invited because I thought maybe they felt obligated because it was their dinner time. My whole family (even extended family was raised this way). My mother would serve food to my friends if they just wouldn't go home when it was supper time, or if it was the mddle of the day I. The summer. Mostly we played outside and rode bikes, played basketball, baseball, football, etc. In my small town. Most of my friends had very good manners around the adults at least. I would never belly up to someone else's family buffet expecting to eat for free without even knowing the people serving. I can't even fathom the gall that somebody like that has. Your grandma sounds like my grandma's, but I would have no problem running people off who have no manners. Every adult has learned boundaries, and when they cross them they know good and well what they are doing. Those types you really can't be nice to. They are programmed to take advantage. Just know that this is not how all mainlanders are. I would be appalled if somebody I knew behaved that way, and I would have no problem straightening them out about it. I hope you get to meet better quality mainlanders in the future. They do exist.

  58. Please don't stereotype all Polynesians into the same category. My family are all hard workers, no one is lazy and act self entitled to anything. You are getting self righteous over one persons thoughts. Just because one person says something, it doesn't mean that that's the way everyone in Hawaii thinks. To say you will never come here and that we "don't appreciate tourists hard earned money" is just plain stupid. I don't know if I want some idiot who gets all upset over one persons thoughts to come here. It's the "greater than thou" attitude that people have when they come here that annoys the locals. If you come here, humble yourself, immerse yourself in our culture and traditions, then you will have a wonderful time and you won't offend anyone. Our culture is all about family, helping each other when someone is in need, loving the land and respecting everyone especially our elders. I know a lot of people that come to Hawaii and have tried spam, and guess what? They like it. I'm not going to knock other cultures for liking certain foods and you shouldn't either. If you can't have a humble attitude and learn to enjoy life and the beauty around you that doesn't cost a dime, then you don't belong coming here.

  59. Yes, it's okay to be angry about how our island and home gets treated. But how can you expect people to care for our home or culture like we do? There is so much miscommunication, misinterpreted theories, and lack of knowledge when it comes to various cultures; it's truly sad. But who cares what we all think. Each and every one of us will forever have our own opinions. Yes, there were some things that were done to our Hawaiian culture that was wrong, but we are not the only ones who were once oppressed. The NATIVE Hawaiians are still natives. The NATIVE Americans are still natives, but were also oppressed and continue to have to live under oppression. They could leave, as could we, but why would we? Our lives would not be the same at all if it were not for colonialism. Everyone needs to get off of their high horse and realize that one is not better than the other. We have a world of opportunity now that would not be possible without the "white mans" help. So let's all just relax and take into consideration how people feel. Whether it be against oppression or for colonialism. Our opinions are just opinions. Let's not hate one another for our ancestors encounters and adjustments. Majority of us Hawaiians have roots elsewhere besides hawaii itself, so all you angry Hawaiians, just remember that you would not be here if it were not for colonialism. Unless you are 100% Hawaiian, which there may be like 20 left, then we cannot complain. On side note, everyone should consider taking a cultural anthropology class; it will open your minds in ways you would not think of yourself.

    • Ah , the voice of reason ! We visited several years ago . We spent one night on the big island then finished our stay in Maui . We loved the slow pace as that is what we came for . As we explored on our own , no guides , we saw a young woman spear fishing . So amazing ! We ventured into nature and saw a "rainbow" tree . I took photos of the flora and fauna , we saw sights we will always remember . We will also go back ! We have friends from Ca. That live there too ! We have lived in other countries and have respected them all but we respect our own as well ... I admit I was taken aback at the writer stating we should not attempt the language , we were always encouraged to learn the language of where we lived , how do you manage if you can't communicate? So happy with all that put that foolishness to rest ? . You have much to be proud of !!!

  60. Jesus fucking christ,

    Get over it this is the way the world works. Who ever has the most power makes the rules it's unfortunate but it's true.
    People a see that people b have good real estate and cannot defend it so they go and take it, it's how human beings are programed.

    And besides that point why would you hate modern day mainlanders? I have no desire to partake in or repress Hawaiian culture it's not mine and it dosent appeal to me. I have no problem with the culture but it's not my cup of tea. So why should I be treated like a leper for simply existing in hawaii?
    If I see a cultural event taking place I think to myself oh that'd cool and I keep on walking. Not bad thought or said.

    • "Get over it this is the way the world works. Who ever has the most power makes the rules it's unfortunate but it's true." --- Probably said by some douche who is up in arms against muslims moving to new places and bringing their beliefs with them and spreading their culture.

      • No its how america works that why the international courts are looking at a case on war crimes in hawaii its for real you can look it up america is keeping it hush they dont want any to know about it. Pluss if we were part of america why do we have the JONES ACT LOOK IT UP we get charged 3 to 4 x the price for every thing that comes to hawaii. Ships pass hawaii gos to cali un load then reaload comes to hawaii and we are charged 3 to 4 x the price if this American soil why cant they drop it of in hawaii .

    • You sound like the type of person who travels to Japan and then refuses to partake in any of the Japanese culture.

      "I have no desire to partake in or repress Hawaiian culture it's not mine and it dosent appeal to me. I have no problem with the culture but it's not my cup of tea. So why should I be treated like a leper for simply existing in hawaii?"

      The culture isn't your cup of tea? Well then, what is your cup of tea? Maybe you should get out of Hawai‘i since it's not your cup of tea and go somewhere else. You're treated like a leper because you're an asshole, that's why.

  61. Damn. The majority of the people in these comments are actually suggesting you be grateful and get over it. That's some fucking nerve right there. You're allowed to be angry. If this was done to my country I would have lost it. Honestly. Not a compassionate, understanding bone in their bodies. More power to the author. Hope you know there are still some people out there who can see things for what they are.

    • I see all the comments on here, and think these people should just calm down. I was born and raised in Hawaii, but have traveled to several different countries and showed respect to each place I visited. I learned about the different cultures and met different people. I was never disrespectful to their culture. Each culture was fascinating and fun to learn more about. I don't think local people demean themselves when the show the WELCOMED visitors what the native hawaiians cook their food, which are still done till this day because the roasted pig (kalua) comes out really tender, the way we tell our stories by dancing the hula, we as locals express our concern, because these visitors come here befriend a few locals, move here, then tell everyone now they are locals!! SERIOUSLY?! YOU ARE HERE ALL OF 10 MINUTES!! Any way you spin it, only some of the visitors disrespect Hawaii. There will always be that one "douche" that will write stuff like this guy did. He probably got his ass kicked by a local girl because he made some stupid comment about our culture here.

      Oh yeah, to that "not my cup of tea" guy, MOVE!!

  62. 1. Yes, they put an end to the monarchy, and it's too bad. But if you know anything about history at all, you'll have to appreciate the fact that it's very rare for a native culture to be honoured and accommodated - Europeans typically have come in and killed & cheated the natives off with zero regard for anyone, so Hawaiians got off pretty easy considering the alternative of how things typically went down back in the day.

    Besides, how can you blame me, a Canadian with Norwegian ancestry who had zero to do with what took place over 100 years ago? I'm pretty sure you can't be mad at my great grandfather in Norway 100 years ago then begrudge entrance to Hawaii to me as his ancestor for there being no monarchy.

    2. Tacky tourists sound like asses all over the world whether it be "mas cerveza por favor" or "ganga rasta mon", or "Aloha, hang loose". Not everyone who's white is a tacky tourist type. Hate on tacky tourists all you want, but don't hate on white people in general for being white.

    3. Re: destroying the environment: The only source you quoted was from about 30 years ago. Get some updated information on this matter and do some serious research on this matter before making dogmatic inaccurate accusations.
    I've traveled extensively and Hawaii is by far the cleanest and most environmentally responsible "fair weather" place I've ever seen.

    4. Re: Ruining breasts: Ya, that sucks, to be sure. I agree. But the truth is that if you've seen bare sagging boobies since birth, they wouldn't give you much of a thrill anyways, so you're not missing as much as you might think.

    5. Re: mocking culture: Yeah, that's just embarrassing. But again, that's just the way things work when it comes to stupid tacky tourist culture, anywhere in the world, not just Hawaii.

    By the way, feel free to mock my Norweigian heritage or Canadian culture all you want. What's the big deal?

    6. Re: real estate prices: Dude, I'm from Vancouver. When I moved there 18 years ago, a house in our area used to cost about $200k. Today, that same piece of property is worth about $600k. Who do I blame for that? The few hundred Hawaiians that moved to Vancouver over the last few years?

    7. Re: paying natives to demean themselves: Up in Canada, we have natives humiliating themselves in the same way by doing silly dances and chanting annoying songs, the same as pretty much any country that has stupid tacky tourists paying to experience - scratch that (they don't really want experience) - wanting to "see" a different culture.

    Scantily clad sexy women? What? How'd I miss that? I've just seen chubby decently clothed ladies! Joking aside, I love how there seems to be no pressure in Hawaii to be thin & sexy.

    • Europeans beheaded 800 native hawaiian in the 1800's on the Kona coast.All because hawaiian didn't wanna convert there religion to Catholic or Christianity.So get your facts right before saying we should be grateful ful.because if it wasn't for white people,Hawaii would still be beautiful and pristine as it was 200 years ago.Know your shit.

    • 1. I don't get your point. You're asking us to be complacent with the fact that we've been "accommodated"? What's the point of your reply? It's 2016. And you. A Norwegian Canadian. What the fuck does this have to do with Hawai'i? What about fucking Vancouver? You've got more than 200 First Nations to worry about already.

      2.Boycott us, who gives a fuck. The Japanese and the Chinese are where the money's at.

      3. Why wouldn't tourism have an impact? You really need a study to prove more than common sense should?

      4. That's exactly the point. They weren't sexual in this context. Did you get it yet?

      5. Do it with some intelligence, at least.

      6. Hawaiians have nothing to do with your situation. Tourism has everything to do with Hawaii's situation.

      7. Up in Norway, we have natives humiliating themselves in the same way by doing silly dances and chanting annoying songs, the same as pretty much any country that has stupid tacky tourists paying to experience - scratch that (they don't really want experience) - wanting to "see" a different culture.

      Also, joking aside, maybe you can somehow get it through your head that Hawai'i has a different aesthetic than the European whitewash you're used to. I don't expect you to comprehend it right away, as you seem to be only used to things that pertain specifically to white folk, but I do ask you to consider it :)

    • War crimes is real there's a case going on in Switzerland under what america did is war crimes.international laws states that what america is doing and did is war crimes . America don't want any one to know even there own people study law before you talk . I dont blame you for not knowing about what happened to hawaii but like how america says law is law so they should follow it .America passed a bill public law 103 . 150 its a apology bill for the illegal over throw of the hawaiian kingdom. Illegal is illegal america should come clean and stop the lies your not at blame for what happened .

    • Not sure if you're arguing against or agreeing.

      So maybe it's basically "7 Reasons [Fill in Name of Beautiful Lands Once Occupied By Indegenious People but Now Occupied By Illegally Invading Super Power & Turned into a Tourist Trap to Make Money From Selfish Visitors ] Hates You"

      The problem is not unique to Hawaii, but that doesnt make it less real. I think our problem here is more about too many people MOVING here from the mainland & less-so with tourists anyways, but thats just me ;)

  63. Most of us come from a culture that was, at some point or other in history, usurped by a foreign one. Mine is no different in that respect, and probably, yours isn't, either. If you keep that in mind when visiting others' countries, Hawaii included, it gives you a respect and a feeling of joint equality and acceptance. We're all vanquished, but we can proceed decently from here forward.

    I don't doubt that there is enmity toward me from some Hawaiians simply because of the color of my skin, but I treat them as if I am a visitor to their country, because I am. If I am in danger, it's not because of anything I've done. We all need to behave with real respect for each other from now on. The past is over.

  64. I'm sorry you (the author) has to read the comments on this post. Your (the author's) anger is justified, and even as someone nonwhite that has familial roots there, I still understand the impact of -why- I have roots there that are only about 120 years old, what it means for me to visit, and the shit indigenous people go though anywhere that's colonized, regardless of who is doing the colonizing or how long ago that was. I'm sorry that most people believe the history written in the books we were forced to read in school. (At college level; price raised AND often written solely by the person teaching the class!) And I'm sorry for the lack of understanding in general. I never comment on articles on the internet (so I am not even gonna put notifications on about replies haha), but I thought you deserved to know that someone gets what you're saying that isn't Hawai'ian themselves.

    • While the points of the article maybe true ( depends on your opinion) no where in the comments have I read anything related to Hawaiians also being part of the problem. My point is that, as a state, Hawaii could implement states laws( building codes, tourist taxes, ownership laws) that would reduce the inflow of the white invaders.

      Simply put , Hawaiians can control, to a limited extent, their own destiny at the ballot box. Vote in folks who represent the locals interests and use that as the "gatekeeper".

      Local school boards could increase the curriculum to include more Hawaiian culture to ensure the youth of today take it forward into the future.

      Ultimately, Hawaii could succeed from the U.S via a direct appeal to the U.S. Government or to the UN. This is a long shot but hey, if you want you land back you use all avenues.

      The above being said, then understand that some of the unspoken upside from being part of the U.S. Will go away. That's OK if the locals want it but this won't be a case of you get to eat the cake as well.

  65. I wouldn't go to Hawaii if you paid me. Bunch of self righteous racists that don't appreciate the tourists hard earned money. Any state where a Spam is a delicacy has something wrong with it.

    • Ha ha, yep I'm a NZer. We have Polynesian culture here too. Lazy, self entitled, theiving, highest child abuse rate in the world. Hawaii is beautiful but the natives are violent pigs!

      • What a joke.
        You sound miserable.
        God bless your soul, darlin.
        Aloha oe!

      • Haha...yeah white foreigners did the same thing to the Maori, now u complain about how they act??

      • I'd gladly pay you both NOT to come to Hawai'i. Oh wait, I'm lazy & self entitled... Oh darn. Still. Keep your hard earned money & shove it where the sun don't shine. :D

    • Sorry we don't appreciate your "hard earned money", but as you've read, the fact that tourists show up to spend their money in Hawai‘i makes it harder for locals to survive here.

      BY THE WAY, spam is great, most of you guys just cook it wrong and make weird shit out of it.

    • Good....stay home ;) Win-win!

  66. Even with not doing any of the reasons listed there is still judgement. Funny thing is even though I have multiple ethnic groups in my bloodline I'm too light skinned to be anything other than white. Understanding, and acceptance is what everyone everywhere wants. Something that has happened 100+ years ago is not my or any individuals fault.

    • Thing is Christina, they don't see it that way. Colonisation gifted hawaii with free education, healthcare and many other advantages yet they still scream and moan. Fact is this Stone Age people were colonised by a superior people and bought into the modern world as a result

      • Realy Markus? "Colonisation gifted Hawai'i with free education, healthcare and other advantages?"
        News flash/ History lesson for you! The Kingdom of Hawai'i before it was taken over illegally had one of the highest literacy rates in the world. The Kingdom hired scholars from England, Scottland and France "Not FREE" to teach not only royal children but, the kingdoms children. Iolani Palace had electricity before your very own White House. Which King Kalakaua contracted Thomas Edison to bring electricity in 1886 4 years before the White house had it. Trade was done freely with European and Asian countries. Hawai'i had it's own Dr.'s both educated abroad and contracted ("Paid NOT FREE) also, they also had traditional medicines as well which western medicine piggy back's off of making the synthetic versions. The Kingdom of Hawai'i was fine before it was stolen. Imperialistic thinking! You need to change not US!

      • Wrong, we had all of that including running water, flushing toilets and electricity in Iolani palace before the White House. The thing most misunderstood is that it's likely we will be free and independent in 30 years. We had a fire dept, police dept(that wasn't racist from the get go) and healthcare also the highest literacy rate(90%) and after United States took over, health got worse, literacy went down and the language almost died. We had amazing diplomatic relations with all the European nations.

      • Colonization did not gift us with free education, healthcare, etc. We still pay for those things. In fact, we didn't even have bacterial diseases, viruses, AIDs, etc. before foreigners got to Hawai‘i. We had perfectly sustainable living systems. We were never "Stone Age" people. We never needed to be brought into the modern world. Every other country affiliated with us recognized us as a perfectly functioning country with responsible monarchs, but no, the United States decided that they wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

        Don't try to justify colonization. Realize that colonization is what started catastrophes like the WWI, WWII, etc.

      • Actually colonization decimated over half of the population with smallpox & then tried to rob the other half of their culture & dignity. Missionaries & white businessmen pounced & served only their own interests. Bill Clinton even officially apologized for the illegal overthrow of the Queen, but it meant NOTHING.

        This article sums up just part of that hate--and some of us do hope u r offended and feel squeemish about it. It likely will not prevent many from still coming here, but maybe it'll make you think twice or show more respect when here. Dont stay too long though....too many new ppl here already--everybody wants a piece of Hawaii for just the price of an airline ticket.

        • I didn't get my piece so cheap... I was 14 when I inherited a meager amount and spent 20 years building on it. I finally invested in a taxi business in kona. My first partner screwed me and the guy we were buying out. So what did I do?... I made things right. I sent him money to undo the damage my ex partner had done. Bringing my total spent to almost 50k. Then when I arrived with my family he took us in. But made it so I couldn't make money with him. I then find that he still owes on the vans. So he's committed fraud by all legal definition, but the fact is that if I leave the island I'll never get a fair shake. So now I'm bouncing around trying to keep my family alive while so many who could help, don't because of what the "whites" have done. I'm of Scottish blood and if you ain't seen braveheart then just pick up a damn book and find a country the English didn't oppress. Good luck. That's then and this is now and I'll fight any one of you Polynesian some bitches if that's what you respect. But if you wanna justify being a snake by showing me the slither marks of others, then show my tracks amongst them by god! Back in the Deep South I done a damn sight of bad, but not one whit of it to the Pacific Islanders. But they're taking my money and leaving me hung out to dry. The proper way to show me that I'm unwanted would've been if I couldn't have found a place to invest here. Lot of good ppl and they hate the damn thrives and snakes of all races...,

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